Chiefs Peter King: Chiefs distancing themselves from Piioli regime - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 03-05-2013, 02:29 PM

Ummm....Has King ever watched a Chiefs game? Bowe has never been a deep threat. He excels in crossing routes and using his size and strength to break tackes for long gains.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl.../?sct=uk_wr_a2

The Kansas City Chiefs, in the span of one week, have distanced themselves about as far from the Scott ***** regime as possible. It'll take a while to find out, but the race is on to see if the commitments coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey made to three players will pay off in the form of a more competitive Chiefs team.

The Chiefs have a deal in principle for San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith; that could have happened under ***** as well, but it's thought he was going to spend a second-round pick on one of the rookie quarterbacks in the class of 2013. The team made an $11-million-a-year commitment to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in the form of a new five-year contract Monday. Those close to the Chiefs think ***** may have franchised Bowe, but never committed that kind of money to the occasionally unreliable receiver. ***** might have franchised left tackle Brandon Albert, but it's also very possible he would have let Albert walk and drafted a left tackle like Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft.

Bowe has been an electrifying receiver, and he could be the deep threat Reid loved in DeSean Jackson in Philadelphia. But will Smith -- whose throwing arm is just average, and who will be used more as an intermediate thrower than deep -- be able to use Bowe's playmaking ability downfield? I've never been in the camp of those who think Smith can't throw a strong 35-yard go route; it's simply that the deep balls are not his strength.

But Smith in 2011 and '12 under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman proved there's more than one way to play quarterback. His average yards per attempt was 8.0 in 2012, significantly higher than renowned deep-ball throwers like Ben Roethlisberger (7.3), Joe Flacco (7.2), Jay Cutler (7.0) and Matthew Stafford (6.8).

I think there's a good chance ***** would have investigated Smith and quite possibly would have dealt for him. The personality profile, passing efficiency and age (28) would have appealed to *****.

But Smith, Bowe and Albert, in tandem, would probably not have happened under the old regime, and certainly not the big contract for Bowe. There will be an interesting chemistry experiment in Kansas City this season.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent V

I don't know if it needs to be reiterated further, but Peter King is a hack. A known hack.

Riiight.

That's why he's been a writer at S.I. for decades, appears on NBC Sunday Night Countdown and before that, Inside the NFL, plus hosts a show on the NBC Sports channel with Mike Florio during the season.

**ptlyon** · 03-05-2013, 03:04 PM

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So, you personally would have put Smith back in the lineup after he was medically cleared to return?

I personally wouldn't have traded a #34 pick for him

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

I personally wouldn't have traded a #34 pick for him

That wasn't the question I asked

mikey23545 · 03-05-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I wonder how accurate he was on deep ball throws?

Hard to say, but I don't think he was very effective because someone kept moving the goalposts...

Reerun_KC · 03-05-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Since 2006, the Chiefs have had four head coaches, two GM's and one winning season.

4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 10-6, 7-9, 2-14.

I don't know why anyone in the national media would waste their time writing about the Chiefs, unless something of importance, like a player signing or the changing of regimes happens.

Face it: The Chiefs don't sell many magazine and don't provide much internet traffic as compared to the Patriots, Redskins, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Peyton Manning, etc.

You're mean... Not sure why you have to run over my puppy and shoot my unicorn...

Jerk face meany guy.

-King- · 03-05-2013, 03:09 PM

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But Smith in 2011 and '12 under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman proved there's more than one way to play quarterback. His average yards per attempt was 8.0 in 2012, significantly higher than renowned deep-ball throwers like Ben Roethlisberger (7.3), Joe Flacco (7.2), Jay Cutler (7.0) and Matthew Stafford (6.8).

So nobody is going to comment on this little tidbit about Smith?

He threw less deep passes than anyone in the league. He threw only 17 deep passes last year and only 36 in all of 2011. People want to say Cassel doesn't throw deep but even he had 34 attempts in 10 games last year.
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**ptlyon** · 03-05-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That wasn't the question I asked

I am aware. But I didn't watch the 9 ers last year or any other team other than our own abortion, so I guess I don't really know what I would have done.

Just sayin a #34 with another conditional for a player just coming off of a concussion is a bit of a stretch for me.

Agent V · 03-05-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Riiight.

That's why he's been a writer at S.I. for decades, appears on NBC Sunday Night Countdown and before that, Inside the NFL, plus hosts a show on the NBC Sports channel with Mike Florio during the season.

That's... fine. It's subjective, I suppose.

Marcellus · 03-05-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He threw less deep passes than anyone in the league. He threw only 17 deep passes last year and only 36 in all of 2011. People want to say Cassel doesn't throw deep but even he had 34 attempts in 10 games last year.
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The way I read it, he got more yards per attempted pass per game than Flacco, and Big Ben and Stafford.

I can't find a single way thats a bad thing. If he threw more passes could that go down? I guess but it sounds like he was effective and was getting his yards in chunks to me.

**Easy 6** · 03-05-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I happen to like and enjoy Peter King's columns because often times, he's reporting directly from high profile players, coaches, GM's and scouts. But more often than not, his "bubble" is very small and basically encompasses the Northeast.

Well, and Peyton Manning, wherever he may roam.

Its pretty confusing how a guy who really doesnt seem to know football all that well, somehow amasses such an impressive list of contacts who speak very candidly with him.

You'd think that the minute he started trying to talk about the game in front of them, they'd tune him out and vow to never spill anything in his presence... "this guy doesnt know what the hell he's talking about".

To compare two players so totally different?... as you say, a football genius he aint... i'd almost call him a glorified parrot that honcho's around the league go to to get their takes put out there.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You're mean... Not sure why you have to run over my puppy and shoot my unicorn...

Jerk face meany guy.

As the guy that first brought the phrase "Rainbows and Unicorns" to Chiefsplanet back in 2009, I approve of this message.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

I am aware. But I didn't watch the 9 ers last year or any other team other than our own abortion, so I guess I don't really know what I would have done.

Just sayin a #34 with another conditional for a player just coming off of a concussion is a bit of a stretch for me.

The concussion isn't an issue at all for me.

It's whether or not you're getting the guy from 2011-2012 or the guy from 2005-2010.

**ptlyon** · 03-05-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The concussion isn't an issue at all for me.

It's whether or not you're getting the guy from 2011-2012 or the guy from 2005-2010.

It is for me now a days with the NFL watching them so closely. I fear another Boss situation in store for us.

Imon Yourside · 03-05-2013, 03:28 PM

All you need to know about Pissoli is from his interview with KK about Peyton Manning.

(Paraphrased)
KK : I would have signed Peyton Manning.
SP: You should be the GM of the Denver Broncos, it would be good for the Chiefs
KK: So you don't think Peyton will be a good QB?
SP: I'd be willing to take bets he won't last, Time will tell.

6 months later SP is fired, lolz and Clark mentions SP inability to get PM in for an interview.

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The concussion isn't an issue at all for me.

It's whether or not you're getting the guy from 2011-2012 or the guy from 2005-2010.

How about the fact that he's only played a full season twice in his career?

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $124454	Peter King: Chiefs distancing themselves from Piioli regime Ummm....Has King ever watched a Chiefs game? Bowe has never been a deep threat. He excels in crossing routes and using his size and strength to break tackes for long gains. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl.../?sct=uk_wr_a2 The Kansas City Chiefs, in the span of one week, have distanced themselves about as far from the Scott *** regime as possible. It'll take a while to find out, but the race is on to see if the commitments coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey made to three players will pay off in the form of a more competitive Chiefs team. The Chiefs have a deal in principle for San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith; that could have happened under * as well, but it's thought he was going to spend a second-round pick on one of the rookie quarterbacks in the class of 2013. The team made an $11-million-a-year commitment to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in the form of a new five-year contract Monday. Those close to the Chiefs think * may have franchised Bowe, but never committed that kind of money to the occasionally unreliable receiver. * might have franchised left tackle Brandon Albert, but it's also very possible he would have let Albert walk and drafted a left tackle like Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft. Bowe has been an electrifying receiver, and he could be the deep threat Reid loved in DeSean Jackson in Philadelphia. But will Smith -- whose throwing arm is just average, and who will be used more as an intermediate thrower than deep -- be able to use Bowe's playmaking ability downfield? I've never been in the camp of those who think Smith can't throw a strong 35-yard go route; it's simply that the deep balls are not his strength. But Smith in 2011 and '12 under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman proved there's more than one way to play quarterback. His average yards per attempt was 8.0 in 2012, significantly higher than renowned deep-ball throwers like Ben Roethlisberger (7.3), Joe Flacco (7.2), Jay Cutler (7.0) and Matthew Stafford (6.8). I think there's a good chance * would have investigated Smith and quite possibly would have dealt for him. The personality profile, passing efficiency and age (28) would have appealed to ***. But Smith, Bowe and Albert, in tandem, would probably not have happened under the old regime, and certainly not the big contract for Bowe. There will be an interesting chemistry experiment in Kansas City this season.
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