Chiefs Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs - Page 247

Deberg_1990 · 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM

Well, it looks like the deal is done.

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49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith

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Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.

Frosty · 03-07-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And he did in 2011.

King's focusing on some pretty odd volume stats to support his argument here. Then again, Smith does really well on my 2 favorite stats (YPA and passer rating) so I'll admit my own bias there.

If the Niners fans are right, Smith's YPA and Completion % are high because he refuses to throw the ball unless his receiver is wide open. He takes a lot of sacks instead of throwing the ball away. On the surface, that sounds smart but he kills a lot of drives, which you can see on the poor 3rd down conversion stats that the 49ers have had under Smith, even under Harbaugh.

-King- · 03-07-2013, 03:25 PM

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I disagree.

He was on a similar leash to Cassel, but since his team wasn't having to push it downfield and because he was able to actually execute to put himself in more makeable 2nd and 3rd down solutions, he wasn't being forced to throw it downfield.

The 49ers were 25th and 31st in the league on 3rd down the past 2 years.

opposition · 03-07-2013, 03:25 PM

So what do you guys suggest you do?

RunKC · 03-07-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Alex Smith has played in a total of 2 playoff games and won 1 in his 8 year career. Dalton has played in 2 in the first 2 years of his career.

Yeah, very good comparison. Nice job.

6 TD's, 0 INT's and a 300 yard performance compared to Andy Dalton struggling to get any points.

I'd say that makes Smith the better QB come playoff time.

Nightfyre · 03-07-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

No, because to some people on this forum, every season is the same.

I honestly cant understand it. The chiefs qbs turned the ball over 37 times last year. That number will be cut by at least 20 next year, meaning the defense will spend less time on the field, the offense will spend more. Therefore the defense will play better, the offense will play better from the standpoint that instead of a drive ending in a turnover, it will end in a kick, one way or the other.

The offense won't spend more time on the field if we are 1/12 on third down conversions. Hell, a three and out is just as bad as a turnover from where I'm sitting.

**SAUTO** · 03-07-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition

So what do you guys suggest you do?

draft geno smith.

then we can get rid of you ****ers too

Chiefnj2 · 03-07-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I disagree.

He was on a similar leash to Cassel, but since his team wasn't having to push it downfield and because he was able to actually execute to put himself in more makeable 2nd and 3rd down solutions, he wasn't being forced to throw it downfield.

And do you not agree that defense and special teams should be the Chiefs biggest strengths next season?

If he put himself in good 3rd down situations why do the 49ers have poor 3rd down conversion %'s.

opposition · 03-07-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

If the Niners fans are right, Smith's YPA and Completion % are high because he refuses to throw the ball unless his receiver is wide open. He takes a lot of sacks instead of throwing the ball away. On the surface, that sounds smart but he kills a lot of drives, which you can see on the poor 3rd down conversion stats that the 49ers have had under Smith, even under Harbaugh.

Nope he refuses to throw the long ball because he knows exactly where he wants to go with the ball in his pre-snap reads. This is what seperates Alex from other QB's. His ability to make adjustments at the line(something Nolan or Singletarty never let him do). IMO this is what makes him so successful. Only throwing 25 times a game, you don't get a lot of chances so Alex takes what the defense gives him. Statistically Alex is up there with the best as far as long ball percentages, he would rather take a 100% open guy, rather than risk a 50/50 long ball.

opposition · 03-07-2013, 03:29 PM

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draft geno smith.

then we can get rid of you ****ers too

And what will that fix? Will you suddenly be a playoff team because of Geno Smith?

Beeker · 03-07-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition

And what will that fix? Will you suddenly be a playoff team because of Geno Smith?

Nope. If they drafted Geno EJ Barkley, they'd still be 2-14 or 3-13. But they'd be happy they drafted a QB #1 overall!!!!

Frosty · 03-07-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition

Nope he refuses to throw the long ball because he knows exactly where he wants to go with the ball in his pre-snap reads. This is what seperates Alex from other QB's. His ability to make adjustments at the line(something Nolan or Singletarty never let him do). IMO this is what makes him so successful. Only throwing 25 times a game, you don't get a lot of chances so Alex takes what the defense gives him. Statistically Alex is up there with the best as far as long ball percentages, he would rather take a 100% open guy, rather than risk a 50/50 long ball.

Game manager

Frosty · 03-07-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeker

Nope. If they drafted Geno EJ Barkley, they'd still be 2-14 or 3-13. But they'd be happy they drafted a QB #1 overall!!!!

Some of us want to try to swing for the fences, even if it means striking out, rather than constantly bunting.

**SAUTO** · 03-07-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition

And what will that fix? Will you suddenly be a playoff team because of Geno Smith?

probably not this year.

but we wold have a better shot in future seasons than with alex ****ing smith

-King- · 03-07-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition

And what will that fix? Will you suddenly be a playoff team because of Geno Smith?

Nope. But we're not a playoff team now because of Alex Smith either.

**SAUTO** · 03-07-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeker

Nope. If they drafted Geno EJ Barkley, they'd still be 2-14 or 3-13. But they'd be happy they drafted a QB #1 overall!!!!

you could play qb for us this year and we would have a better record than that

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