Chiefs sign Dunta Robinson

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

And we're off: Former Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson reached agreement Friday night on a three-year deal with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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At least he won't be in Denver covering Bowe or Baldwin
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

That's sad after Flowers at DB we have nothing

Arenas and Travis Daniels are solid depth corners. Kendrick Lewis is a solid backup guy. Right now we have decent nickel and dime package. We just need a free safety to close that out.

I imagine Dorsey the next few years is going to stockpile d-backs. For depth and so they can replace dunta sooner rather than later. That's what makes dunta such a great pickup. I don't think he's a long term solution. But he's a terrific stopgap that allows you to take your time to find good corners instead of panicking to fill a need.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Arenas and Travis Daniels are solid depth corners. Kendrick Lewis is a solid backup guy. Right now we have decent nickel and dime package. We just need a free safety to close that out.

I imagine Dorsey the next few years is going to stockpile d-backs. For depth and so they can replace dunta sooner rather than later. That's what makes dunta such a great pickup. I don't think he's a long term solution. But he's a terrific stopgap that allows you to take your time to find good corners instead of panicking to fill a need.

Daniels not on this team he's a FA

[Mother****erJones]

We'll get another corner maybe well try a guy like Brent Grimes or Sam Shields is a FA right?

[mcaj22]

Arenas is more than a solid depth CB

he had better numbers as the #2 on a bad Chiefs team than Dunta did on a good Falcons team

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Arenas and Travis Daniels are solid depth corners. Kendrick Lewis is a solid backup guy. Right now we have decent nickel and dime package. We just need a free safety to close that out.

I imagine Dorsey the next few years is going to stockpile d-backs. For depth and so they can replace dunta sooner rather than later. That's what makes dunta such a great pickup. I don't think he's a long term solution. But he's a terrific stopgap that allows you to take your time to find good corners instead of panicking to fill a need.

His contract will determine whether or not this was a stop gap or panic move.

[mcaj22]

im guessing 3 years 15-18 million

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

we currently have two guys that can get after the QB so unless they plan on improving that we will probably still be one of the worst teams in sacks again

That's only because Romeo didn't like to dial up the blitz. Berry, dj, and arenas will be more active blitzing in a new scheme. Poe should improve with a more attacking style and through general development of his skills. The last two pieces are less critical and not terribly difficult to find DEs who can play 1-gap. It's not like you're looking for Mario Williams here. Aaron smith or Brett Kiesel players will do fine here.

I don't know why you keep creating defensive doomsday scenarios. Our defense is not far away talent wise from being very good in the more 1-gap scheme I expect sutton to use.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

We'll get another corner maybe well try a guy like Brent Grimes or Sam Shields is a FA right?

With releasing Robinson, I imagine that the Falcons will make re-signing Grimes a priority.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Arenas is more than a solid depth CB

Arenas is NOT solid depth at CB. Scrub that failed notion out of your head if it requires steel wool.

Originally Posted by mcaj22

he had better numbers as the #2 on a bad Chiefs team than Dunta did on a good Falcons team

Keep in mind the only reason Ca$$hole had a huge game that week was due to a complete lack of pass rush.

And no, I'm not a D-Rob fan. I'd love him at FS and hope to **** we draft a legit CB 1st to push him to Nickel/Dime packages...

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's only because Romeo didn't like to dial up the blitz. Berry, dj, and arenas will be more active blitzing in a new scheme. Poe should improve with a more attacking style and through general development of his skills. The last two pieces are less critical and not terribly difficult to find DEs who can play 1-gap. It's not like you're looking for Mario Williams here. Aaron smith or Brett Kiesel players will do fine here.

I don't know why you keep creating defensive doomsday scenarios. Our defense is not far away talent wise from being very good in the more 1-gap scheme I expect sutton to use.

they are not doomsday scenarios

the fact that you think we sat in a 2 gap and blame it entirely on Romeo is laughable. The scheme switch is not going to make that much of a difference unless the talent gets better. We were in plenty of pass rushing formations last season and still could not get the heat the formation was designed for. That falls on the players. Period. Two guys have the skillset on this team to rush the passer and you are just dreaming and being a complete homer in assuming that anyone else is just going to magically break out. That's a pipe dream, not production.

I'd want nothing more than Dontari Poe to come out and be the next Neil Smith but I'm going to be realistic and realize the guy is green as grass.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

His contract will determine whether or not this was a stop gap or panic move.

I think the fact that they signed a 30-year old corner tells you this is probably a stopgap move, regardless of contract. I don't see Dorsey as a guy who will sign a guy, then not look to the draft for a replacement. Dorsey so far seems like a guy who wants to draft based on his board, not because of need. This kind of move creates less urgency to fill in a need through reaching for a draft pick or overpaying an okay guy to a contract that's harder to back out of. It helps him stick to his board.

I'm not saying this is the right strategy. I want to reach for a qb in the first regardless. But for cornerback, I am okay with this approach.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

What concerns me more is the tenor of the fans thinking that it is somehow 2005 again and that free agency is going to solve our problems.

They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.

Rebuilding like this is a sure way to get to mediocrity, but it won't get us above and beyond that.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

they are not doomsday scenarios

the fact that you think we sat in a 2 gap and blame it entirely on Romeo is laughable. The scheme switch is not going to make that much of a difference unless the talent gets better. We were in plenty of pass rushing formations last season and still could not get the heat the formation was designed for. That falls on the players. Period. Two guys have the skillset on this team to rush the passer and you are just dreaming and being a complete homer in assuming that anyone else is just going to magically break out. That's a pipe dream, not production.

I'd want nothing more than Dontari Poe to come out and be the next Neil Smith but I'm going to be realistic and realize the guy is green as grass.

Romeos defense is not aggressive. And we were very often asking two gap guys to play 1-gap. And the bulk of their training was 2-gap. A scheme switch will make everybody on the front 7 effective except for our two d-ends. And we obviously need another ILB, but that role shouldn't overly affect our pass rush.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Tell Pittsburgh that scheme means nothing. They can literally plug guys off the street and field a Top 5 defense.