Chiefs Chiefs sign Dunta Robinson

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 12:24 PM

You guys put far too much emphasis into scheming and gapping, and are arguing about all of the wrong topics here.

Dunta brings versatility, either as a CB or FS. I love lewis at FS, so I see this being a Dunta at CB. The upside is we have a very good nickel corner, Arenas, and the frontline versatility to swap between a 4-3 and a 3-4 with the players currently under contract, all we are doing now is either improving the talent at the starting position, or adding depth.

Flowers, Robinson, Berry, Lewis. That sounds like a pretty solid secondary when you toss out names like Hali, Houston, and Johnson out there as your linebackers.

There might be a shakeup in the Defense just a bit, but I'm willing to guess it'll be Robinson/Berry on the strong side, and Flowers/Lewis on the other, which works magically for us.

I'm actually even more excited about Dunta now, more than earlier. All we need to do now is found a bloodhound for ILB/MLB and we are going to be set like a mother****er defensively.

I know people are going to flame me for tossing out the name of a "bust" out there, but what's the update on Maualuga from Cincy? Is he hitting FA?

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Flowers, Robinson, Berry, Lewis. That sounds like a pretty solid secondary when you toss out names like Hali, Houston, and Johnson out there as your linebackers.

Um, people need to get over the idea that Kendrick Lewis is part of anything solid for us.

Dunta Robinson is coming here to take his job.

**Rausch** · 03-09-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Um, people need to get over the idea that Kendrick Lewis is part of anything solid for us.

Dunta Robinson is coming here to take his job.

I'm a big Lewis backer and I'd be more than fine with that...

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

"i love Lewis at FS"

Are you a masochist?

Nooooo

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Um, people need to get over the idea that Kendrick Lewis is part of anything solid for us.

Dunta Robinson is coming here to take his job.

Who's going to play corner across from Flowers?

It isn't going to be Arenas. And why would Lewis step down to Robinson at FS? Dunta's knock is zone coverage, FS is primarily for zone coverage coverage.

You don't bring the FS down into the box to put 8 in the box, you bring down your SS (Berry) who excels in run support.

If Dunta plays Man well, and we notoriously play man well, and are missing a CB opposite flowers, it stands to reason that we brought Dunta in to star opposite Flowers, but in a role similar to Asomugha in Oakland, I see this being a bit more specific to the defensive scheme rather than "line up on that guy". I think with Reid here, we're going to see Berry and and Robinson lined up opposite the Offense's strongside, playing to our secondary's strength immensely.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 12:43 PM

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Who's going to play corner across from Flowers?

There's a whole offseason to go to decide that...but it's not Robinson. He wasn't brought here to play CB after he was utter garbage in Atlanta.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

There's a whole offseason to go to decide that...but it's not Robinson. He wasn't brought here to play CB after he was utter garbage in Atlanta.

Actually, he has.

Also, if he was utter garbage in Atlanta, a team that was on fire and one of the most picked at the beginning of the season to make the super bowl for the NFC, how did that team make it into the playoffs? I mean, if he was such a liability and all.

Ohhh, I get it, you're focused on statistics that show Dunta is below average, when the same statistics suggest that Dunta was thrown against considerably more than say, our #2, because Atlanta was winning, and Kansas City was losing.

Honestly, it surprises me how much you people forget the laws of football statistics when making an argument.

A team that is winning, runs. A team that is losing, passes.

It would stand to reason that the statistics have an inverse relation in this case, do they not?

Dunta was on a winning team and got thrown against quite a bit, yes? It would stand to reason that his statistics are inflated due to that. Also, consider for a moment the quality of opponents the Falcons faced last year before you pass judgement.

**Rausch** · 03-09-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Actually, he has.

Also, if he was utter garbage in Atlanta, a team that was on fire and one of the most picked at the beginning of the season to make the super bowl for the NFC, how did that team make it into the playoffs? I mean, if he was such a liability and all.

They scored more than Gono at the Playboy mansion...

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

They scored more than Gono at the Playboy mansion...

It does help to basically have 4 pro bowlers at key positions on offense to allow your defense to be a bit more blitz happy :P

saphojunkie · 03-09-2013, 12:56 PM

It seems to me that Reid and Dorsey are systematically filling holes on the roster so that they are not forced to draft for need. This good be a damn good thing for those of us wanting a first round QB, or it could mean no QB for sure. We will just have to see.

I will feel better if we sign a FA right tackle and extend Albert.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Actually, he has.

Also, if he was utter garbage in Atlanta, a team that was on fire and one of the most picked at the beginning of the season to make the super bowl for the NFC, how did that team make it into the playoffs? I mean, if he was such a liability and all.

Ohhh, I get it, you're focused on statistics that show Dunta is below average, when the same statistics suggest that Dunta was thrown against considerably more than say, our #2, because Atlanta was winning, and Kansas City was losing.

Honestly, it surprises me how much you people forget the laws of football statistics when making an argument.

A team that is winning, runs. A team that is losing, passes.

It would stand to reason that the statistics have an inverse relation in this case, do they not?

Dunta was on a winning team and got thrown against quite a bit, yes? It would stand to reason that his statistics are inflated due to that. Also, consider for a moment the quality of opponents the Falcons faced last year before you pass judgement.

I'm glad your homerism has convinced you Dunta Robinson is good, but he's not.

The guy got beat, a lot.

When only 4 guys in the league allow more yards, you get moved to free safety, because you suck as a CB.

And the move actually makes a lot of sense, because he can hit and tackle, two things Kendrick Lewis can't do at all.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

I'm glad your homerism has convinced you Dunta Robinson is good, but he's not.

The guy got beat, a lot.

When only 4 guys in the league allow more yards, you get moved to free safety, because you suck as a CB.

And the move actually makes a lot of sense, because he can hit and tackle, two things Kendrick Lewis can't do at all.

Actually, believe it or not, Free Safety is one of those positions where Tackling is less important, and your ability to ball hawk comes at a premium, something Kendrick Lewis has done a great job at.

Why would we go after Dunta, and then miss out on Sean Smith if he was coming here for FS? Are we moving Kendrick to Corner now?

You don't just move guys away from their native positions.

mcaj22 · 03-09-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Actually, he has.

Also, if he was utter garbage in Atlanta, a team that was on fire and one of the most picked at the beginning of the season to make the super bowl for the NFC, how did that team make it into the playoffs? I mean, if he was such a liability and all.

Ohhh, I get it, you're focused on statistics that show Dunta is below average, when the same statistics suggest that Dunta was thrown against considerably more than say, our #2, because Atlanta was winning, and Kansas City was losing.

Honestly, it surprises me how much you people forget the laws of football statistics when making an argument.

A team that is winning, runs. A team that is losing, passes.

It would stand to reason that the statistics have an inverse relation in this case, do they not?

Dunta was on a winning team and got thrown against quite a bit, yes? It would stand to reason that his statistics are inflated due to that. Also, consider for a moment the quality of opponents the Falcons faced last year before you pass judgement.

i know this concept is very foreign to us Chiefs fans but....

imagine this idea for a second

When you have good to decent QB play, like Atlanta has, you can afford to have shitty burn victims for CBs on the downswing of their career. Imagine that. If we ever got a QB worth a shit we could also give up having turds at other positions, but in fact we need to be built like a Ravens team with Trent Dilfer or in this case a 2011 49ers team with Alex Smith to have a punchers chance, and that requires good positional talent.

03-09-2013, 12:24 PM	#1
Exoter175 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10003166	You guys put far too much emphasis into scheming and gapping, and are arguing about all of the wrong topics here. Dunta brings versatility, either as a CB or FS. I love lewis at FS, so I see this being a Dunta at CB. The upside is we have a very good nickel corner, Arenas, and the frontline versatility to swap between a 4-3 and a 3-4 with the players currently under contract, all we are doing now is either improving the talent at the starting position, or adding depth. Flowers, Robinson, Berry, Lewis. That sounds like a pretty solid secondary when you toss out names like Hali, Houston, and Johnson out there as your linebackers. There might be a shakeup in the Defense just a bit, but I'm willing to guess it'll be Robinson/Berry on the strong side, and Flowers/Lewis on the other, which works magically for us. I'm actually even more excited about Dunta now, more than earlier. All we need to do now is found a bloodhound for ILB/MLB and we are going to be set like a mother****er defensively. I know people are going to flame me for tossing out the name of a "bust" out there, but what's the update on Maualuga from Cincy? Is he hitting FA?
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03-09-2013, 12:56 PM	#9
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $2156550	It seems to me that Reid and Dorsey are systematically filling holes on the roster so that they are not forced to draft for need. This good be a damn good thing for those of us wanting a first round QB, or it could mean no QB for sure. We will just have to see. I will feel better if we sign a FA right tackle and extend Albert.
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