Chiefs Chiefs sign Dunta Robinson

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Who gives a shit? Charles Tillman played with one of the worst offenses in football and he got thrown at MORE than Dunta Robinson. He was the 4th rated CB on that list.

Also, if you break down Robinson's numbers on a per-snap basis, he was still one of the worst in the league.

So there's basically no evidence that Dunta Robinson is good at anything except:

1. Hitting people.

2. Tackling.

Which makes him an ideal candidate to replace Kendrick Lewis, who does...neither of those things.

He's bad at zone, and he's a good hitter and tackler, you don't play him at free safety, if anything he'd play strong safety, which we already have berry for. It makes sense to put him at corner on Berry's side to aid in run stopping if Dunta in fact does better in man than zone.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm changing my mind.

This was a signing designed to be a cheap one-year patch at CB, exactly like Stanford Routt was supposed to be. The Chiefs can invest their draft picks at QB, OL, WR and the front seven without having to burn very much (if anything) in the secondary.

We always try to patch our secondary, if it isn't the corner position, it is at safety.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

It makes sense to put him at corner.

Why?

He sucks at corner. This has already been explained to you. He gets beat by WRs constantly. The dude was getting roasted by Dexter McCluster in the season opener.

**pr_capone** · 03-09-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

He's bad at zone, and he's a good hitter and tackler, you don't play him at free safety, if anything he'd play strong safety, which we already have berry for. It makes sense to put him at corner on Berry's side to aid in run stopping if Dunta in fact does better in man than zone.

Or we could see Berry go to FS and Robinson at SS. I personally believe that if Berry would be godlike at FS.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

His stats last actually do say he's the worst tackler in the NFL. He missed a tackle for every 3 he made just terrible.
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He's a free safety, he doesn't see the same tackles as say, a middle linebacker should, you're also talking about a wide variety of variables such as opponent offenses, propensity to see a tackle due to how bad or good the front 7 is and so forth. Ed Reed doesn't have to make tackles because his front 7 has always been good, put him here on the Chiefs where we're constantly losing and getting ran on, and forced to cover man to man due to short 3rd down conversions, and you'd probably see Ed Reed up there too. You're missing the point entirely.

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I heard these reports somewhere before, feels like deja vu

oh yea last year his name was Stanford Routt, that worked out real well for us

Nothing like Routt at all, you're just being scared and pessimistic.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Because he misses more tackles than just about everyone else in the NFL on a play-to-play basis. This is over three years now. He was DEAD LAST in the ENTIRE LEAGUE in tackling effiency in 2010 and 2012, and 4th worst in 2011.

The guy was on pace to miss TWENTY TACKLES last year had he not been hurt.

Shit player. Can't tackle. Doesn't make plays. Zero interceptions last year. One pass defensed.

He sucks.

He's a shit player because he had zero interceptions last year and only one pass defensed because he was injured?

What about the previous two years before that with what? 3 interceptions each year and closer to 10 or more passes defensed each year?

yeah, he's so ****ing bad when he's on the field.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Why?

He sucks at corner. This has already been explained to you. He gets beat by WRs constantly. The dude was getting roasted by Dexter McCluster in the season opener.

He'd be better than Kendrick at corner, and Kendrick is better than Dunta at Free Safety, soooooooooo, where else would you put him? He's probably not a better nickel than Arenas.

Also, Dexter rocks, so that example sucks. He's going to go nuts in Reids offense.

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Or we could see Berry go to FS and Robinson at SS. I personally believe that if Berry would be godlike at FS.

I'd love to see that, but it would take a defensive scheme change to move Berry over to FS. He's certainly versatile enough to play the FS position. Remember his rookie year?

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Also, Dexter rocks, so that example sucks.

You are a true reerun.

Kendrick Lewis and Dexter McCluster are two of the worst players at their positions in the NFL.

I'm not going to debate with you anymore because there's no use. You love shitty players. And there's nothing I can do to change that.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by something cooler

You said what about dex?

He's awesome, and he's going to play awesome in Reid's offense.

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

a CB known for his regressing speed and being a good press man CB 5 years ago? Nothing like Routt at all? That's EXACTLY like Routt. But Dunta can hit people. woopdie doo. Still slow, still regressing man to man skills, still cant cover. Routt part II:Electric Boogaloo

"Known for his regressing speed?". Proof please.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

This doesn't excuse the rest of his crap play. Three interceptions in 16 games is nothing.

You cannot be the worst tackler in the NFL and start on a defense.

Yes you can, if you aren't foolish enough to look at a heavily variability statistic like an adjusted weight for tackling, and then set your roster because of it. Lewis starts because he's football smart and a good player, he's young, AND he's cheap.

And he's loyal, he'll stay a Chief.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

You are a true reerun.

Kendrick Lewis and Dexter McCluster are two of the worst players at their positions in the NFL.

I'm not going to debate with you anymore because there's no use. You love shitty players. And there's nothing I can do to change that.

Then don't debate it. Your opinion is based on statistics. Mine is based on what my eyes see.

You see McCluster over there with a poor Yards per Catch in a Dink and Dunk offense, who is a running back by nature, and you call him bad.

I call him a hard working athlete who is a playmaker the second the ball is in his hands and will fight for every inch on the football field and line up at any position you ask of him.

I'll take 53 of those please.

Chiefshrink · 03-09-2013, 02:15 PM

What I find interesting is not so much the Robinson signing but how much of a welcomed relief and pleasant surprise this new regime has brought to most CPers and most Chief fans in general with all the immediate movement since taking charge unlike the Steadman,Peterson,***** 40yrs in the desert' routine.

Just taking immediate ongoing action is so foreign to this team and our fan base and IS a pleasant and much needed surprise for all.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

He'd be better than Kendrick at corner, and Kendrick is better than Dunta at Free Safety, soooooooooo, where else would you put him? He's probably not a better nickel than Arenas.

Also, Dexter rocks, so that example sucks. He's going to go nuts in Reids offense.

I'd love to see that, but it would take a defensive scheme change to move Berry over to FS. He's certainly versatile enough to play the FS position. Remember his rookie year?

McCluster rocks? Get dysentary.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

McCluster rocks? Get dysentary.

He's productive and has heart, I don't know how you could think he doesn't rock.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

He's productive and has heart, I don't know how you could think he doesn't rock.

He averaged 28 yards per game.

You like players who:

Average 28 yards per game.

Lead the league in missed tackles.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

He's productive and has heart, I don't know how you could think he doesn't rock.

He's not productive, and getting the **** smashed out of you because you're small and slow doesn't mean you have heart.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

McCluster rocks? Get dysentary.

mcaj22 · 03-09-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

He's a free safety, he doesn't see the same tackles as say, a middle linebacker should, you're also talking about a wide variety of variables such as opponent offenses, propensity to see a tackle due to how bad or good the front 7 is and so forth. Ed Reed doesn't have to make tackles because his front 7 has always been good, put him here on the Chiefs where we're constantly losing and getting ran on, and forced to cover man to man due to short 3rd down conversions, and you'd probably see Ed Reed up there too. You're missing the point entirely.

Nothing like Routt at all, you're just being scared and pessimistic.

He's a shit player because he had zero interceptions last year and only one pass defensed because he was injured?

What about the previous two years before that with what? 3 interceptions each year and closer to 10 or more passes defensed each year?

yeah, he's so ****ing bad when he's on the field.

a CB known for his regressing speed and being a good press man CB 5 years ago? Nothing like Routt at all? That's EXACTLY like Routt. But Dunta can hit people. woopdie doo. Still slow, still regressing man to man skills, still cant cover. Routt part II:Electric Boogaloo

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

3 interceptions each year .

This doesn't excuse the rest of his crap play. Three interceptions in 16 games is nothing.

You cannot be the worst tackler in the NFL and start on a defense.