Chiefs reached agreement in principle on deal with former Saints QB Chase Daniel

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Chiefs reached agreement in principle on three-year deal with former Saints QB Chase Daniel, who played at Missouri.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

why cant alex smith be rich gannon?

I'm sure he could but I know what Alex Smith is. He's an efficient game manager...I don't know if there is much upside and I know he takes too many sacks.

I am hoping Chase Daniel has more upside and could be a poor man's Drew Brees (from what I remember he doesn't have good arm strength and you can't develop that)

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do you know ANYTHING about the Steelers?

Six-time world champions?
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

shit if we get Rich Gannon out of Chase Daniel talk about a steal of a signing

the problem with you, Mr. Man, is you think Aaron Rodgers' grow off trees...

do you think the Bears can win anything with Jay Cutler?

Hell yes they can.

Cutler's a stud. He always has been.

For instance, you cite his record in Denver. In the 20 losses he suffered in Denver, his defense gave up an average of 33 points/gm. His defenses in Denver were hideous. And yet, he was often still able to win in shootouts.

In Chicago...well you're just wrong there. Cutler doesn't help his line, but he doesn't hurt it either. In his last year in Denver, his first with a decent line, he actually led the league in sack%; getting sacked on fewer than 2% of his dropbacks (which is amazing for a downfield passer). His sack rate in Chicago has doubled. Perhaps he shoulders a little blame there, but I find it hard to believe that a guy that got sacked 11 times in over 600 dropbacks his final year in Denver suddenly forgot how to slide protection and unload the football immediately upon his arrival in Chicago. It's a combination of scheme and protection that dooms him out there.

In Denver, he had no defense at all. In Chicago, he's had no O-line at all. He's just never been in a situation where he should've been expected to just drag the team to a SB.

He has one of the top 3 arms in the league and while his accuracy comes and goes, he's able to make placement throws into the corner that maybe 5 guys can make with any regularity. He's mobile in the pocket and he has a swagger that I love in my quarterback. It's the same swagger that gets Brady sucked off as a 'leader'.

I'd trade 1.1 for Cutler in a heartbeat.

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The fact you haven't heard a peep out of Chicago about even thinking about replacing Cutler the last two years speaks volumes.

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and they just overpaid for a lazy TE for him

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Cutler=Grbac

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

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After a while you have to actually watch and see why...and I live in Illinois, so the Bears are forced down my throat...

I think Cutler makes that very, very average line look very, very terrible.
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I saw plenty of Bears games. That line is disgustingly bad. They haven't had a decent OT on EITHER side in 3 years.

J'Marcus Webb was basically the worst LT in football in 2011.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hell yes they can.

Cutler's a stud. He always has been.

For instance, you cite his record in Denver. In the 20 losses he suffered in Denver, his defense gave up an average of 33 points/gm. His defenses in Denver were hideous. And yet, he was often still able to win in shootouts.

In Chicago...well you're just wrong there. Cutler doesn't help his line, but he doesn't hurt it either. In his last year in Denver, his first with a decent line, he actually led the league in sack%; getting sacked on fewer than 2% of his dropbacks (which is amazing for a downfield passer). His sack rate in Chicago has doubled. Perhaps he shoulders a little blame there, but I find it hard to believe that a guy that got sacked 11 times in over 600 dropbacks his final year in Denver suddenly forgot how to slide protection and unload the football immediately upon his arrival in Chicago. It's a combination of scheme and protection that dooms him out there.

In Denver, he had no defense at all. In Chicago, he's had no O-line at all. He's just never been in a situation where he should've been expected to just drag the team to a SB.

He has one of the top 3 arms in the league and while his accuracy comes and goes, he's able to make placement throws into the corner that maybe 5 guys can make with any regularity. He's mobile in the pocket and he has a swagger that I love in my quarterback. It's the same swagger that gets Brady sucked off as a 'leader'.

I'd trade 1.1 for Cutler in a heartbeat.

I don't see it with Cutler. I watch a good amount of Bears games and just don't see it.

That's me though. I've been wrong.

You have to remember Cutler played for Shanahan in Denver. Of course he's not going to get sacked a lot. Shanahan QB's don't get sacked a lot. It's in the scheme.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

I saw plenty of Bears games. That line is disgustingly bad. They haven't had a decent OT on EITHER side in 3 years.

J'Marcus Webb was basically the worst LT in football in 2011.

I too watch about 70% of Bears games, and Cutler does the line no favors. BUT the line is also bad. It's a double edged sword.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

I saw plenty of Bears games. That line is disgustingly bad. They haven't had a decent OT on EITHER side in 3 years.

J'Marcus Webb was basically the worst LT in football in 2011.

Got sacked 4.0% of his dropbacks in Denver; 2% his final year.

Gets sacked in 8% of his dropbacks in Chicago; 4 times as frequently as the baseline he set over 600 attempts in his final 'pre-Chicago' season.

He's getting hung out to dry in Chicago.

I shit you not - put him on this team and it's an immediate Super Bowl contender.

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Cutler obviously can make every throw...and he has some good QB mobility...

but he's a dipshit. He also holds the ball too long. and he also makes throws you just can't make in pivotal situations

I see him as a fringe top 10 QB which is good...but I don't think it's good enough to ever win anything of importance and that's what CP wants in the worst way, right?

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he may luck into something like Joe Flacco

I just think it's funny that Rahim Moore happened and suddenly Flacco gets $120M

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Got sacked 4.0% of his dropbacks in Denver; 2% his final year.

Gets sacked in 8% of his dropbacks in Chicago; 4 times as frequently as the baseline he set over 600 attempts in his final 'pre-Chicago' season.

He's getting hung out to dry in Chicago.

I shit you not - put him on this team and it's an immediate Super Bowl contender.

The Rat's sytem helped with that.

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I don't see it with Cutler. I watch a good amount of Bears games and just don't see it.

That's me though. I've been wrong.

You have to remember Cutler played for Shanahan in Denver. Of course he's not going to get sacked a lot. Shanahan QB's don't get sacked a lot. It's in the scheme.

Brian Griese did.

Plummer didn't, but Plummer was also a very mobile QB. McNabb did. John Elway got sacked more often than at any point in his career in the 1 season where Shanahan was his OC. When Shanny was his HC, Elway got sacked more often than Cutler.

I don't buy it. When he's had Plummer and Cutler, his sack% figures have been extremely low. When he's had his other QBs, they've been average to slightly below average.

Cutler's not the problem with the Bears O-line, no matter how hard Chicago fans try to blame him.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Brian Griese did.

Plummer didn't, but Plummer was also a very mobile QB. McNabb did. John Elway got sacked more often than at any point in his career in the 1 season where Shanahan was his OC. When Shanny was his HC, Elway got sacked more often than Cutler.

I don't buy it. When he's had Plummer and Cutler, his sack% figures have been extremely low. When he's had his other QBs, they've been average to slightly below average.

Cutler's not the problem with the Bears O-line, no matter how hard Chicago fans try to blame him.

perhaps

I watched the games and thought a lot of the times he simply held the ball too long...but I was never that emotionally invested so maybe all of the Bears fans and my friends (I live in Illinois remember) influence my opinion on Cutler more than I think...

I just get the fact as KC fans we're all mad about not taking a QB at #1...

but it's like everyone thinks these Aaron Rodgers grow on trees when truth be told these same fans would bitch about Jay Cutler, or Ben Roethlisberger, or etc. etc. etc.

if every "expert" and then our very own QB hungry coach Andy Reid and a guy who went from Favre to Rodgers are all telling us Geno isn't a franchise QB

I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt

even though I totally agree with anyone who doesn't want to do that anymore after the whole "executive of the decade" noise...

I have no problem with critiquing moves...but I'm not going to be a miserable **** just because I'm a Chiefs fan.