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Old 03-12-2013, 02:45 PM  
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Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed

Reid Ferrin ‏@KCChiefs_Reid

Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed. Stay tuned to http://KCchiefs.com for more info #chiefskingdom


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The Alex Smith to #Chiefs trade is now official. 49ers get 2nd round pick plus conditional 2014 pick. Chiefs get starting QB



The San Francisco 49ers have agreed to a trade with the Kansas City Chiefs. The 49ers will acquire an undisclosed 2013 draft choice, and a conditional pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, in return for sending QB Alex Smith to the Chiefs. Smith must pass a physical in Kansas City for the trade to be executed.

“We would like to thank Alex for his contributions to the 49ers organization over the past eight years,” said 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke. “He is a true professional who represented the 49ers with class on and off the field.”

Originally the first overall draft pick in the 2005 NFL Draft by San Francisco, Smith spent eight seasons in the red and gold. During his tenure with the 49ers, he started 75 of the 80 games in which he played, completing 1,290 of 2,177 pass attempts (59.3%) for 14,280 yards and 81 TDs.

In 2012, Smith was 6-2-1 as a starter, completing 153 of 218 pass attempts (70.2%) for 1,737 yards with 13 TDs and 5 INTs, and a QB rating of 104.1. In 2011, Smith led the 49ers to their first NFC West title and postseason berth since 2002. He threw for a career-high 3,144 yards on 273 of 445 pass attempts with 17 TDs, 5 INTs and a 90.7 QB rating.

Born in Seattle, WA, Smith attended Helix High School in LaMesa, CA. At the University of Utah, Smith boasted a 21-1 record as a starter and became the first player in school history to be named a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.



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Alex is one of the toughest players out there man. He played in 2007 about 5 games with a separated shoulder.
He can be tough all he wants. If he is injured and can't play what good is he? I doubt he plays all 16 games this season do to injury. He may come back from his injury but he is going to suffer injury for being pummeled for taking too many sacks.
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Hi KC fans. This is long, but I feel it would be irresponsible for me not to give you a fair warning to your eminent horizon.

Let me preface by saying I'm a Niners fan but I got no beef with your team. Anyone that gets to smack around the raiders (the absolute lowest common denominator of humanity) is OK in my book. You may read that oakland is in a state of revival, that's bull*** - it's always been a s***hole and always will be.

If you're reading this, the Alex Smith trade has gone through.

I post to you with an olive branch in my hand - I'm here only to let you know what your in for.

First things first, Alex Smith is great guy. If he weren't he would have been booted from our team half a decade ago. He is the epitome of class, the nonpareil of locker room integrity, he's dedicated- to the team, to his family and to his community. He always says the right things. Were a bildungsroman to be written of a young man destined for the trials and tribulations of the NFL, Alex Smith is the poster child. He's the kind of dude you want your daughter to marry.

He's also very smart. His wonderlic was very high. He did very well at a mediocre school. I'm not sure what that means. Marino is as dumb as a doorknob, and Joe isn't renown for his intellectual prowess. Stephen Hawking is incredibly smart, but I don't think I'd want him quarterbacking my team (but then again, he knows more than I, so if he could figure out a way to pull it off and win- rock and roll Stevo).

Please KC, don't get mad at the player. I can confidently say that Alex Smith will do everything in his power to bring success to your organization.

The problem is Alex isn't coming to KC to chill, hang out and eat BBQ (of which I'm personally jealous, there's little real BBQ in SF - there's wanna-be- but no real-deal). He's coming out to lead your football team.

KC, you have acquired an enigma.

Is he great? No. Is he really good? Nobody really knows. Has he had moments of greatness? Yes! Are those moments rare? Yes. Can he win a big game? Yes! Can he lose an even bigger game? Yes.

What is he really good at? Well, he's an incredibly conservative passer, he can take a sack better than any QB I've ever seen, and his presence divides a fanbase more than anything I've ever witnessed (I went through the Joe vs. Steve debacle and it was dark, but nothing near the acrimony associated with the AS debate(maybe thats got something to do with the internet or something, IDK)).

There are essentially three camps of folks when it comes to Alex Smith. The Haters (those who believe the dude is a junk QB and whose success is completely dependent on the system and will spare no expense to trash the guy). The 49er Fans (those who care more about the team than any individual player(s) and want everyone to do well). And the Fanboys, a.k.a. the Alex Supporters (a term I find funny b/c when I played sports a supporter referred to something specific that I would personally not want to be associated with).

The Haters were predictable- they were mad for myriad reasons. They would constantly lament at the fact that Smith wasn't Rodgers, took too long in his reads, couldn't hit a receiver in stride, would regularly pass for 5 yards on 3rd and 6, enjoyed throwing the ball above-below-behind a receiver (essentially everywhere except where a proper pass should land), would take a sack rather risk an incompletion, stared down his receivers, had a predilection for check-downs even when folks were wide open downfield, a penchant for getting coaches fired, rarely scanned deeper than 10 yards, became anomic when rattled, had a slow release and a mediocre arm, and has been given more chances than Carter had pills.

The Fans were just happy that the team was finally achieving some success after almost two decades of the suck and could really care less who the QB was as long as we were doing well. A polka-dotted rainbow-skinned hermaphroditic sheep could be the QB and as long as we were winning, we really wouldn't care.

And then there are the Fanboys - a breed upon themselves. They come multiple forms, oldman Fanboys, english Fanboys, juicy Fanboys, Never-Seen-Any-Other QB-play Fanboys. They exhibit a dedication to and fascination of Alex Smith that transcends logic, reason, and accountability. In their mind Smith is incapable of doing anything wrong - he is the unfortunate recipient of bad coaches, players, luck, fans, weather, hell - they've blamed gravity on his low passes. Their favorite stat is Alex's completion percentage (which they consistently confuse with accuracy). In their mind there is no difference between a crappy pass that requires a WR to stop/wait/ or make some otherwise awkward motion and throwing to a receiver so that he can make a play. In their mind Alex came into the league a HOF QB that was held back only by circumstances outside of his purview.

Fanboys also like to use stats to prove Alex Smith is a good/great QB. Has he gotten better? Absolutely. But, it's also like comparing a fresh turd with a 5 year old turd. (Obviously the 5 year old turd isn't as ripe and juicy, and will (in most people's eyes) be a better turd due to it's lack of offense. But, pardon the tautology, poop is still poop (petrified or not). It took a guru to turn the poop into something serviceable). After Kap started playing, Fanboys loved to "prove" that AS was still a superior QB because of his stats. Fanboys went so far to say that AS was a better QB than Manning and Rodgers (if you looked at the stats). Cocaine is a hell'uva drug. So is Alex Smith love.

(An excellent example of this type of blind love is continually exhibited by a particular moderator of a popular 49er fanzone who will ban or warn any poster who says anything critical of his beloved QB, or failing that, shut down any post that doesn't attempt to paste AS in the best light (which are all of them). Don't take my word for it look for yourselves - don't let it happen to your sites).

So, where does that leave you. Look. First things first, Smith is a great guy, maybe one of the greatest. Second, he's a decent QB - I'm not sure of how many training camp QB competitions he's won when the HC didn't load the deck, but he's definitely better now than he was 7 years ago. Third, you got Reid and Reid has a good history with QBs (and I'm sorry, but I can't help this, Reid (lest anyone forgot) is also a descendant of the 49ers). Smith would have never been successful without Harbaugh, and I do think he won't regress markedly under AR. In fact the greatest thing Smith did for the Niners was play just well/poorly enough to where we could acquire Harbaugh. Fourth, it's widely documented that it takes AS 3 years to learn a system- hopefully this isn't true.

He will make brilliant plays, but his inaccuracy will piss off Bowe - we've never had a receiver of the same caliber under AS's tenure, and there has still been a ton of grumbling over the years. But he will also redeem himself in certain circumstances in certain periods of time. He CAN make all the throws, but everything needs to be perfect. He won't rock the ship. He's good enough to always have hope.

I also want to say that his last game vs. the Cards was excellent. It was in, in my mind, his finest game ever. I know the Saints comeback was great, as were a few others, but his last game was by far his most consistent play I have ever seen. At no point did he slump, he finally did hit receivers in stride, stared off DBs, had complete command of the huddle and line-calls, and generally went out and kicked ass. If you guys are getting that Alex Smith you're gonna be stoked. Insofar as it was his last game and last metric to go by, you should have hope. But also beware that for every good game he's put together, there is a stinker waiting around the corner.

I leave you with this. Stay strong, Stay united. You guys have been through a rough year (I feel your pain, we had the same record a few years ago). Call to reason any fan that starts to skew in one direction or the other. Keep dialogue open and beware of powers that want to sway the conversation in one direction or the other. Also beware of moderators who don't believe in the freedom of speech unless it correlates with their own particular universe of reality.

Lastly, if you do see Alex around town- give him your best because you can be confident he's going to do the same for you.

Good luck and Kick the Life out of oak!
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I have no reason to believe he's not that guy, but I also think that guy isn't nearly what he appeared to be without the significant advantages afforded him by that defense.

That's why I think this team wins eight or nine games next year.

I also think the odds of the Chiefs moving off that pick are overly optimistic, but I do agree with you in this sense: the one thing that will keep them out of purgatory is whether or not they can trade down from 1.1 and turn that trade down into a 2014 first to pair with their own as ammunition.
This draft has about 5 or 6 blue chip players at the top and below that are a lot of players that are pretty even in terms of overall ability. One board I saw last week had 35+ players that could be picked anywhere from 10 thru 45. Consequently, unless a team feels it really needs one of those top 5 or 6 guys in order to get to the Super Bowl, they are unlikely to pay the price to get up that high.

I would grab Joekel and be set at LT for the next 10 years. Smith will have the outside pocket protection every QB needs and the running game would be even better.
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How convenient that you ignore the postseason, dipshit.
I am comparing points scored this year and since Alex didnt play in the postseason i did not include those. However since you have decided to be a little bitch about the situation heres some stats for you.

Alex Smith is the 49ers franchise record holder for consecutive passes without an INT.
Alex Smith was a huge part of the first team in NFL history to have 300 yards passing and 300 yards rushing(he threw for 305 and ran for 49 yards)
18/19 232 yards 3 tds 1 dropped pass.

Profootball focus has the following stats on Alex
Passing under pressure
Alex Smith 66.7% completion percentage and 5% interception percentage(9th in the league)

Adjusted Quarterback completion percentage(with dropped passes calculated as complete)
Alex Smith 75.5%(#4 in the league)

Accuracy Percentage
PFF Acc. % = (Completions + Drops) / (Attempts – Throw Aways – Spikes – Batted Passes – Hit As Thrown)
Alex Smith
80.2%(#3 in the league)

Seems like he is in the top of plenty of categories. I can not post the links but you can go to PFF
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This draft has about 5 or 6 blue chip players at the top and below that are a lot of players that are pretty even in terms of overall ability. One board I saw last week had 35+ players that could be picked anywhere from 10 thru 45. Consequently, unless a team feels it really needs one of those top 5 or 6 guys in order to get to the Super Bowl, they are unlikely to pay the price to get up that high.

I would grab Joekel and be set at LT for the next 10 years. Smith will have the outside pocket protection every QB needs and the running game would be even better.
We have a 28 year old LT who is as good as Joeckel will ever be. We'd be better shitting in a hat and taking the hat shit as our #1 pick than drafting that ****wad.
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Lots of words about Alex Smith
Thanks for the relatively even-handed breakdown.

I just hope the guy gets enough rope here because even the guys from SF that don't have much of anything good to say about him paint him as a guy that it's incredibly easy to root for.
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Hi KC fans. This is long, but I feel it would be irresponsible for me not to give you a fair warning to your eminent horizon.

Let me preface by saying I'm a Niners fan but I got no beef with your team. Anyone that gets to smack around the raiders (the absolute lowest common denominator of humanity) is OK in my book. You may read that oakland is in a state of revival, that's bull*** - it's always been a s***hole and always will be.

If you're reading this, the Alex Smith trade has gone through.

I post to you with an olive branch in my hand - I'm here only to let you know what your in for.

First things first, Alex Smith is great guy. If he weren't he would have been booted from our team half a decade ago. He is the epitome of class, the nonpareil of locker room integrity, he's dedicated- to the team, to his family and to his community. He always says the right things. Were a bildungsroman to be written of a young man destined for the trials and tribulations of the NFL, Alex Smith is the poster child. He's the kind of dude you want your daughter to marry.

He's also very smart. His wonderlic was very high. He did very well at a mediocre school. I'm not sure what that means. Marino is as dumb as a doorknob, and Joe isn't renown for his intellectual prowess. Stephen Hawking is incredibly smart, but I don't think I'd want him quarterbacking my team (but then again, he knows more than I, so if he could figure out a way to pull it off and win- rock and roll Stevo).

Please KC, don't get mad at the player. I can confidently say that Alex Smith will do everything in his power to bring success to your organization.

The problem is Alex isn't coming to KC to chill, hang out and eat BBQ (of which I'm personally jealous, there's little real BBQ in SF - there's wanna-be- but no real-deal). He's coming out to lead your football team.

KC, you have acquired an enigma.

Is he great? No. Is he really good? Nobody really knows. Has he had moments of greatness? Yes! Are those moments rare? Yes. Can he win a big game? Yes! Can he lose an even bigger game? Yes.

What is he really good at? Well, he's an incredibly conservative passer, he can take a sack better than any QB I've ever seen, and his presence divides a fanbase more than anything I've ever witnessed (I went through the Joe vs. Steve debacle and it was dark, but nothing near the acrimony associated with the AS debate(maybe thats got something to do with the internet or something, IDK)).

There are essentially three camps of folks when it comes to Alex Smith. The Haters (those who believe the dude is a junk QB and whose success is completely dependent on the system and will spare no expense to trash the guy). The 49er Fans (those who care more about the team than any individual player(s) and want everyone to do well). And the Fanboys, a.k.a. the Alex Supporters (a term I find funny b/c when I played sports a supporter referred to something specific that I would personally not want to be associated with).

The Haters were predictable- they were mad for myriad reasons. They would constantly lament at the fact that Smith wasn't Rodgers, took too long in his reads, couldn't hit a receiver in stride, would regularly pass for 5 yards on 3rd and 6, enjoyed throwing the ball above-below-behind a receiver (essentially everywhere except where a proper pass should land), would take a sack rather risk an incompletion, stared down his receivers, had a predilection for check-downs even when folks were wide open downfield, a penchant for getting coaches fired, rarely scanned deeper than 10 yards, became anomic when rattled, had a slow release and a mediocre arm, and has been given more chances than Carter had pills.

The Fans were just happy that the team was finally achieving some success after almost two decades of the suck and could really care less who the QB was as long as we were doing well. A polka-dotted rainbow-skinned hermaphroditic sheep could be the QB and as long as we were winning, we really wouldn't care.

And then there are the Fanboys - a breed upon themselves. They come multiple forms, oldman Fanboys, english Fanboys, juicy Fanboys, Never-Seen-Any-Other QB-play Fanboys. They exhibit a dedication to and fascination of Alex Smith that transcends logic, reason, and accountability. In their mind Smith is incapable of doing anything wrong - he is the unfortunate recipient of bad coaches, players, luck, fans, weather, hell - they've blamed gravity on his low passes. Their favorite stat is Alex's completion percentage (which they consistently confuse with accuracy). In their mind there is no difference between a crappy pass that requires a WR to stop/wait/ or make some otherwise awkward motion and throwing to a receiver so that he can make a play. In their mind Alex came into the league a HOF QB that was held back only by circumstances outside of his purview.

Fanboys also like to use stats to prove Alex Smith is a good/great QB. Has he gotten better? Absolutely. But, it's also like comparing a fresh turd with a 5 year old turd. (Obviously the 5 year old turd isn't as ripe and juicy, and will (in most people's eyes) be a better turd due to it's lack of offense. But, pardon the tautology, poop is still poop (petrified or not). It took a guru to turn the poop into something serviceable). After Kap started playing, Fanboys loved to "prove" that AS was still a superior QB because of his stats. Fanboys went so far to say that AS was a better QB than Manning and Rodgers (if you looked at the stats). Cocaine is a hell'uva drug. So is Alex Smith love.

(An excellent example of this type of blind love is continually exhibited by a particular moderator of a popular 49er fanzone who will ban or warn any poster who says anything critical of his beloved QB, or failing that, shut down any post that doesn't attempt to paste AS in the best light (which are all of them). Don't take my word for it look for yourselves - don't let it happen to your sites).

So, where does that leave you. Look. First things first, Smith is a great guy, maybe one of the greatest. Second, he's a decent QB - I'm not sure of how many training camp QB competitions he's won when the HC didn't load the deck, but he's definitely better now than he was 7 years ago. Third, you got Reid and Reid has a good history with QBs (and I'm sorry, but I can't help this, Reid (lest anyone forgot) is also a descendant of the 49ers). Smith would have never been successful without Harbaugh, and I do think he won't regress markedly under AR. In fact the greatest thing Smith did for the Niners was play just well/poorly enough to where we could acquire Harbaugh. Fourth, it's widely documented that it takes AS 3 years to learn a system- hopefully this isn't true.

He will make brilliant plays, but his inaccuracy will piss off Bowe - we've never had a receiver of the same caliber under AS's tenure, and there has still been a ton of grumbling over the years. But he will also redeem himself in certain circumstances in certain periods of time. He CAN make all the throws, but everything needs to be perfect. He won't rock the ship. He's good enough to always have hope.

I also want to say that his last game vs. the Cards was excellent. It was in, in my mind, his finest game ever. I know the Saints comeback was great, as were a few others, but his last game was by far his most consistent play I have ever seen. At no point did he slump, he finally did hit receivers in stride, stared off DBs, had complete command of the huddle and line-calls, and generally went out and kicked ass. If you guys are getting that Alex Smith you're gonna be stoked. Insofar as it was his last game and last metric to go by, you should have hope. But also beware that for every good game he's put together, there is a stinker waiting around the corner.

I leave you with this. Stay strong, Stay united. You guys have been through a rough year (I feel your pain, we had the same record a few years ago). Call to reason any fan that starts to skew in one direction or the other. Keep dialogue open and beware of powers that want to sway the conversation in one direction or the other. Also beware of moderators who don't believe in the freedom of speech unless it correlates with their own particular universe of reality.

Lastly, if you do see Alex around town- give him your best because you can be confident he's going to do the same for you.

Good luck and Kick the Life out of oak!
Alex Smith never had three years to learn a system. He had a different OC every year for six years in a row. Only after Greg Roman arrived with Harbaugh did he have the same system two years in a row. Also, I am sure you know of Camp Alex where Harbaugh had one day during the lockout to give Smith the playbook and Alex went on to organize an offensive camp on his nickel in which he taught the basic offense to the rest of the team. He went on to have his best year ever as a pro. To repeat, he had ONE DAY with Harbaugh and proceeded to teach himself the offense from the playbook and taught it to the rest of the team...and they went 13-3 and were two Kyle Williams fumbles in the NFCC away from the Super Bowl that year (2011).
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You Alexsexuals in this thread are hilarious.

Remember weeks 1-8 ish when Harbaugh would bring Kaep into the game in weird situations, for example, redzone/1st downs and then he'd come out then Alice would go back and throw an incompletion/check down/INT/sack. You idiots used the pathetic excuse of Kaep ruining Alex's "RHYTHM".

I know you idiots remember that. Jesus it was hilarious. The guy would throw 3 INTs and meltdown against the Giants at home and the reason according to these Alexsexuals was because of Kaep coming in for a series or two ruining Alex's "CONCENTRATION" and "RHYTHM".

Then whenever anyone would suggest Kaep is ready for more time in games, you guys would use the fake excuse of him not being ready, in fact 2 years away from being ready. "He's too raw, not ready, let him sit till 2013-2014...". , remember those ones Alexsexuals.

Idiots, you clowns were HORRIBLY wrong all season, yet you want to come over to these Chiefs fans and try and add insult to injury. Have you no shame, Alexsexuals?
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:32 AM   #567
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That shitty Vernon Davis, if only Alex had a real TE.
Go read some of the mocks and some of the SF media. They are all saying the 49ers need DL, WR, DB and TE at the top of the draft. Why do you think they include TE in the mix?

Davis is a threat any time he goes out but he is not good at the typical routes the WCO TE runs.
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You Alexsexuals in this thread are hilarious.

Remember weeks 1-8 ish when Harbaugh would bring Kaep into the game in weird situations, for example, redzone/1st downs and then he'd come out then Alice would go back and throw an incompletion/check down/INT/sack. You idiots used the pathetic excuse of Kaep ruining Alex's "RHYTHM".

I know you idiots remember that. Jesus it was hilarious. The guy would throw 3 INTs and meltdown against the Giants at home and the reason according to these Alexsexuals was because of Kaep coming in for a series or two ruining Alex's "CONCENTRATION" and "RHYTHM".

Then whenever anyone would suggest Kaep is ready for more time in games, you guys would use the fake excuse of him not being ready, in fact 2 years away from being ready. "He's too raw, not ready, let him sit till 2013-2014...". , remember those ones Alexsexuals.

Idiots, you clowns were HORRIBLY wrong all season, yet you want to come over to these Chiefs fans and try and add insult to injury. Have you no shame, Alexsexuals?
Keep it on your own board, children.
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I wish the mods would start banning these ass clown 9er fans. We don't need any lectures or tell us what to expect of one Alex Smith.
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I wish the mods would start banning these ass clown 9er fans. We don't need any lectures or tell us what to expect of one Alex Smith.
Eh, I appreciate the insight...for awhile.

Let's face it, wouldn't you feel pretty qualified to go to a Vikings board and tell them about Matt Cassel?

The problem comes when they start to feel indignant about people disagreeing with them.
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