Football Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? - Page 17

keg in kc · 03-12-2013, 03:48 PM

I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here?

Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder.

Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better.

The football gods continue laughing.

KCDC · 03-13-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by something cooler

If that is what it means to you, then you are an idiot.

When you are a Chiefs fan for over 40 years, you can talk about what you think "stable" means for the Chiefs.

TLO · 03-13-2013, 11:35 PM

I think this offseason will prove to be better than 09. Those were dark days.

lcarus · 03-13-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

When you are a Chiefs fan for over 40 years, you can talk about what you think "stable" means for the Chiefs.

I've only been a fan for about 23 years, but to me, "stable" means "Boy these Chiefs sure have a stable full of shitty quarterbacks"

kcxiv · 03-13-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

Deja vu?

1) New HC and GM.
2) HC selects cronies from previous coaching experience
3) Select back-up QB from other team. Pay him top money.
4) Think he's the next Tom Brady.
5) Purposely sign the worst back up QBs so that they will not threaten their dream of turning said back-up QB into a franchise QB.
6) Purposely pass up QBs in draft
7) Tell fans that it is a "process"
8) sign a bunch of cheap scrub free agents

How can you say that you've seen this before?

Retread qb's. Montana really old. Bono grbac green Cassel It all ended up as failures. So now we got Alex my coach wanted me gone ASAP Smith. Where do u see this ending up well. The 49ers defense isn't coming with him.

lcarus · 03-13-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Retread qb's. Montana really old. Bono grbac green Cassel It all ended up as failures. So now we got Alex my coach wanted me gone ASAP Smith. Where do u see this ending up well. The 49ers defense isn't coming with him.

Green might have been a success if we didn't have a wet snotty Kleenex for a defense.

kcxiv · 03-13-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

When you are a Chiefs fan for over 40 years, you can talk about what you think "stable" means for the Chiefs.

I'm a lakers fan. In my 36 years of life I've seen 10 titles and them going to the finals another 4 times. Chiefs? Not even once and not even close. And before u say I'm a front runner I was born in Los Angeles.

kcxiv · 03-13-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Green might have been a success if we didn't have a wet snotty Kleenex for a defense.

Maybes don't count. We were only really good one year with them teams.

patteeu · 03-14-2013, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

I'm a lakers fan. In my 36 years of life I've seen 10 titles and them going to the finals another 4 times. Chiefs? Not even once and not even close. And before u say I'm a front runner I was born in Los Angeles.

How did you become a Lakers fan? How did you become a Chiefs fan?

RunKC · 03-14-2013, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Maybe if you were'nt a Kool-Aid chugging reerun, you wouldn't be reeruned. Just a thought.
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It's reeruns like you that wanted us to draft Mark Sanchez simply because we hadn't drafted a QB in the first rd in forever.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-14-2013, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

Deja vu?

1) New HC and GM.
2) HC selects cronies from previous coaching experience
3) Select back-up QB from other team. Pay him top money.
4) Think he's the next Tom Brady.
5) Purposely sign the worst back up QBs so that they will not threaten their dream of turning said back-up QB into a franchise QB.
6) Purposely pass up QBs in draft
7) Tell fans that it is a "process"
8) sign a bunch of cheap scrub free agents

How can you say that you've seen this before?

The HC is not a crony. Reid doesn't have any connection to chunt. The backup qb has not been given a long term contract nor does it look like that's in the works. As for the Tom Brady comment, I could care less what Dorsey says to the media about smith. On points five and six, we have no idea what their plan is for the third qb. Let's chill untl they do. As for the process, Not at all. They look like they are trying to field a winning team right away. On the scrub free agents, it's not like there are marquee names we missed.

I am ok with the reid hire but not as gung no as many. And I'm not a fan of the Alex smith trade. But holy hell, let's at least give this time to play itself out. Other than giving up a second, he hasn't yet made a move that dooms this franchise.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-14-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever

Drafting a QB #1 overall just because you need a QB is the kind of logic that leads to JaMarcus Russell going #1 overall.

8 of the 9 teams drafting after us in the top 10 desperately need a QB and there's no hype for Geno or teams offering 3 first round picks to move up. This just isn't the draft to take a QB #1

Al Davis slipping mind is the reason JaMarcus Russel went #1 overall. I belive the saying goes "Walk a mile in their shoes" not "Check their soles for poos." Dumbass

Nightfyre · 03-14-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jesus Christ.

So ****ing glad I cancelled. I'm not sure if this offseason will be worse than 2009, but it's likely going to provide similar results.

In 2009, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2013, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2009, we wasted the 3rd overall pick on a valueless postion.

In 2013, we're likely going to waste the only #1 overall pick we've ever had on a valueless position. (RT)

In 2009, we signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's while difference makers went to other teams.

In 2013, we've signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's and not a single difference maker.

The only difference is that the 8-10 win season might come a season earlier, and we'll likely not see the 1st overall pick ever again - but never win anything of substance either. Nothing like making a piss-poor attempt to "win now" when your main competition is a team QB'd by Peyton Manning - who by the way, just got a new toy. A difference maker.

Enjoy your 8 wins a year and your tailgates. Great seats still available.

A whole lot of this. The sad thing is, the true fans will declare it a victory if Alex Smith restores them to the "glory days" of 9-7/10-6 and a first round playoff exit. Pathetic.

RyFo18 · 03-14-2013, 09:05 AM

I like what they've done. They're essentially bringing in cheap mid-level guys to fill holes and are just going to attack the draft and pluck out the best prospects they can in each round.

This is how teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, and Packers have been built. While I think everyone knows that this isn't going to yield an 11-5 season in year 1, it's hopefully setting up this organization to be great in the next 3-4 years and on.

tony77 · 03-14-2013, 10:29 AM

GET THE **** OFF IT! LOOK GENO SMITH IS NOT AN UPGRADE

BigCatDaddy · 03-14-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tony77

GET THE **** OFF IT! LOOK GENO SMITH IS NOT AN UPGRADE TO AARON RODGERS. GOD DAMN, I'M ****ING STUPID

FYP

03-12-2013, 03:48 PM
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here? Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder. Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better. The football gods continue laughing.
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RyFo18 Masochist/Chiefs Fan Join Date: Dec 2009 Casino cash: $10004925	I like what they've done. They're essentially bringing in cheap mid-level guys to fill holes and are just going to attack the draft and pluck out the best prospects they can in each round. This is how teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, and Packers have been built. While I think everyone knows that this isn't going to yield an 11-5 season in year 1, it's hopefully setting up this organization to be great in the next 3-4 years and on. __________________ My weekly NFL Podcast on iTunes
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03-14-2013, 10:29 AM	#254
tony77 Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	GET THE **** OFF IT! LOOK GENO SMITH IS NOT AN UPGRADE
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