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Ace Gunner · 03-27-2013, 08:05 AM

The Kansas City Chiefs are "fascinated" by West Virginia Mountaineers quarterback Geno Smith, according to Ian Rapoport.

Smith was terrific at his pro day and solidified his status as a top 10 pick last week, with most experts believing he will be one of the first selections off the board at the 2013 NFL Draft. Our own Dan Kadar has Smith heading to the Jacksonville Jaguars at No. 2 overall in SB Nation's latest mock draft.

Joel Thorman of Arrowhead Pride calls the move a smokescreen and writes, "Is this the worst smokescreen in draft history? Honestly, it might be."

More: Chiefs offseason coverage at Arrowhead Pride
The Chiefs just traded one second-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft and a conditional third-round choice that could become a second in next year's draft as well for quarterback Alex Smith. That's a high price to pay for the team to also consider such a large draft investment in a rookie like Geno Smith.

Smith threw for 98 touchdowns and 21 interceptions in his four-year career at West Virginia.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/2...mith-nfl-draft

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-27-2013, 10:02 AM

If CP actually believes this I have some ocean front property to sell you in AZ.

**ptlyon** · 03-27-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief

Chris Meck · 03-27-2013, 10:05 AM

You have a middle of the road starting QB for two years, and a Left Tackle that's played at a near pro bowl level on a one year deal. You have a management structure that's shown a past commitment to the QB position. What exactly about this situation says "no" to a QB at 1 as opposed to...a LT?

Mr. Laz · 03-27-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I don't think Reid and Dorsey have any intentions of gutting through a losing season.
They took Alex Smith because he was the best vet available. With even average QB play, this team challenges for the AFC west title.
They took Daniels because Brady Quinn is as bad as Matt Cassel. If Alex got hurt, we'd be ****ed. So Daniels it is, he at least can be a solid backup.

None of this means they think either of these guys is a franchise guy. They were the best fits from the veteran market.

None of this would preclude taking the best QB in the draft if that's what they want to do. If they feel that Barkley/Nassib/Manuel are comparable to Geno, then yeah, they'd like to acquire a buttload of picks and move down a little and get a guy they feel good about as a potential franchise guy. I think this is all just weighing options.

nice thoughts but imo you don't give up a high,high 2nd round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick to do what you suggest.

They had to know that other veterans would come loose.

Is Alex Smith two draft picks better than Kolb,Fitzpatrick etc?

2 slots away from being a 1st round pick which would make the price a 1st and 3rd. That used to be the price of signing a franchise tagged player.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much paid for a casual filler

keg in kc · 03-27-2013, 10:05 AM

Actually fits into my theory that they decided on Alex Smith in january before they even began draft prep, and 6 weeks later were like "wait, there's a qb in this draft after all? crap."

They're still not taking him.

RunKC · 03-27-2013, 10:07 AM

Thank God this shit will be over in less than a month.

Oh wait these people will still be crying every ****ing day.

**The Franchise** · 03-27-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

nice thoughts but imo you don't give up a high,high 2nd round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick to do what you suggest.

They had to know that other veterans would come loose.

Is Alex Smith two draft picks better than Kolb,Fitzpatrick etc?

2 slots away from being a 1st round pick which would make the price a 1st and 3rd. That used to be the price of signing a franchise tagged player.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much paid for a casual filler

Giving up that much when you're coming into one of the WORST QB situations in the NFL? Yeah....it makes a little bit of sense.

Even if they thought that other veterans were going to be cut.....you can't be 100% sure. Fitzpatrick was a surprise....and even then...he's basically a smarter Cassel.

Now....do I think that they're realistically going to draft Geno? No. I'd still put it at about a 5-10% chance that they do. But spending 3 picks to instantly fix your QB situation in today's NFL isn't that crazy.

Direckshun · 03-27-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi

to

Alex Smith, Geno Smith and Chase Daniel

QB situation fixed in ONE offseason.

No shit.

Not just that, but it would legimately leap about 2/3s of the league in quality.

We would have gone from one of the most talentless, hopeless QB corps to one with a ton of potential.

Fascinating, indeed.

Pitt Gorilla · 03-27-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I've said this before, and I will say it again. I do not believe a 1st, 2nd, and conditional pick is too much to spend to upgrade that most important position on the team. Many teams have spent far more than that.

Alex is one heck of an insurance policy at the very least. If we wanted him, we had to get him before March 12th. He has a two year contract. If he pans out to be franchise worthy... great!

Geno has star potential. Too much to pass up IMO. You draft him and let Alex and Geno battle it out.

Alex, Geno, and Chase will cost around 13.5 million to have on the roster this season. That is a lot, but not an excessive amount for the QB position IMO.

Then next season sort it all out on the money end of things.

Yup. The Chiefs are a good team if they have a competent QB. Alex Smith provides starting-level quality and allows the Chiefs to win immediately. If Geno develops somewhat quickly, the Chiefs can trade A. Smith similar to how SF did. Daniel should provide quality depth as well.

**RealSNR** · 03-27-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the Geno crowd do the math.

Alex Smith has had an abortion of a career. At his best, he was game manager-Kyle Orton good. We could have had game manager Kyle Orton for ****ing free.

If he moves beyond that zone, it will be completely unprecedented. And that's what I'm sick of doing. I'm sick of settling for game manager QBs with the expectation that they just take the snaps and protect the football. And I'm sick of taking those QBs with those expectations and saying, "Maybe a miracle will happen and this one will actually be a franchise QB."

It didn't work for Bono, Grbac, or Cassel. Green was the closest thing, and he was 31 when we traded for him.

And until this ****stick proves that he's not a piece of shit, I will treat him like a piece of shit.

So go **** yourself and your, "Time to get over Geno" garbage. Alex Smith ****ing sucks. As soon as YOU realize that, then the true healing can begin.

**ptlyon** · 03-27-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Yup. The Chiefs are a good team if they have a competent QB. Alex Smith provides starting-level quality and allows the Chiefs to win immediately. If Geno develops somewhat quickly, the Chiefs can trade A. Smith similar to how SF did. Daniel should provide quality depth as well.

Ha. Not for a 2nd. Never ever for a 2nd. We overpaid. Badly.

Direckshun · 03-27-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I guarantee you that if we draft Geno Smith......that Alex Smith will be named the 2013 starter before the season even begins.

Which is probably best for Geno.

Honestly, playing behind Alex would be PERFECTO. Smith has been the 1st overall, and has flopped for half a decade before FINALLY understanding what he needed to do to turn shit around.

That's a picture-perfect guy for Geno to sit behind. Add in Chase Daniel's incredibly high character, and Andy Reid as coach.

It's not going to happen. BUT IT ****ING SHOULD.

**RealSNR** · 03-27-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

No shit.

Not just that, but it would legimately leap about 2/3s of the league in quality.

We would have gone from one of the most talentless, hopeless QB corps to one with a ton of potential.

Fascinating, indeed.

And I don't care what we do with those guys. I'm fine with starting Alex Smith for the entire year. And hell, if he actually DOES unprecedentedly surpass expectations, I'm fine with cutting and running with Geno immediately afterward. In a draft like this, we should totally be all about this kind of QB competition, with a good mix of veteran, potential, and America-loving sweetheart.

Direckshun · 03-27-2013, 10:16 AM

I will also add this:

Andy Reid and John Dorsey brought in Alex Smith to "stabilize" the QB position.

Stabilize it. That's their word.

That doesn't scream "this guy will take us to the Super Bowl."

Again, worth remembering.

saphojunkie · 03-27-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Which is probably best for Geno.

Honestly, playing behind Alex would be PERFECTO. Smith has been the 1st overall, and has flopped for half a decade before FINALLY understanding what he needed to do to turn shit around.

That's a picture-perfect guy for Geno to sit behind. Add in Chase Daniel's incredibly high character, and Andy Reid as coach.

It's not going to happen. BUT IT ****ING SHOULD.

"Geno, how does it feel being drafted by Kansas City, knowing they just traded for Alex Smith?"

"I feel blessed, to be honest with you. Alex is a great quarterback, and it will be a blessing to be able to learn from him. He can teach me a lot, just having gone through this stuff, too, you know? I mean, he was the first overall pick also, so just having a veteran guy there who understands all that and can show you the ropes as I transition to the National Football League is going to be really helpful. I'm gonna do my best to compete for playing time, but I'm really lucky to be able to have Alex there to push me and teach me."

And then all of Kansas City JIMPs.

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Ace Gunner First Overall Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: kcmo Casino cash: $10007271	Chiefs reportedly 'fascinated' by Geno Smith The Kansas City Chiefs are "fascinated" by West Virginia Mountaineers quarterback Geno Smith, according to Ian Rapoport. Smith was terrific at his pro day and solidified his status as a top 10 pick last week, with most experts believing he will be one of the first selections off the board at the 2013 NFL Draft. Our own Dan Kadar has Smith heading to the Jacksonville Jaguars at No. 2 overall in SB Nation's latest mock draft. Joel Thorman of Arrowhead Pride calls the move a smokescreen and writes, "Is this the worst smokescreen in draft history? Honestly, it might be." More: Chiefs offseason coverage at Arrowhead Pride The Chiefs just traded one second-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft and a conditional third-round choice that could become a second in next year's draft as well for quarterback Alex Smith. That's a high price to pay for the team to also consider such a large draft investment in a rookie like Geno Smith. Smith threw for 98 touchdowns and 21 interceptions in his four-year career at West Virginia. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/2...mith-nfl-draft
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2023447	I will also add this: Andy Reid and John Dorsey brought in Alex Smith to "stabilize" the QB position. Stabilize it. That's their word. That doesn't scream "this guy will take us to the Super Bowl." Again, worth remembering.
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