New Dating Megathread

[Buck]

Luv's old thread is in the HOC for being too big.

Post all your dating questions, comments, concerns, advice, and scrutiny in here!

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Buck

Based on back and forth texts that I initiated this morning, I don't think its going to last much longer.

We'll see.

You're overthinking.

[Ecto-I]

Originally Posted by Buck

I think that I might have just had a bad morning and made a dumb decision because now I feel shitty as hell.

I'm a little confused. So you had one mediocre hang out with her and you're ready to call it? I mean, you guys haven't been seeing each other that long so it's surprising that this could happen, and better for it to be earlier than later.

I got broken up with this week by the girl I've been seeing for a little over a month. Still feels shitty, but better now than in six months.

So do you feel shitty because she feels bad or because you're reconsidering? If you're reconsidering, then you can easily turn that boat around because she still likes you (right? it sounds like you're the one ending this).

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by Buck

Join the club!

Hey asshole, this is your fault. Seriously. You gave me shitty advice. And when dakcman talks about being awesome from now on I am going to be less inclined to believe he is.

[Hammock Parties]

My guess is she was flaky/boring/mind elsewhere on the phone and Buck is butthurt about it.

ARE YOU A LIL HIGH MAINTENANCE BUCK?

JUST TAKE THIS BITCH OUT TO DINNER AND MOVIES AND LET HER SLOB YOUR KNOB, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by something cooler

Hey asshole, this is your fault. Seriously. You gave me shitty advice. And when dakcman talks about being awesome from now on I am going to be less inclined to believe he is.

My Awesome advice is worth every cent you paid for it. It's up to you to employ Awesome execution of said advice.

[tooge]

you sowed your seed enough to spread your gene pool around, so naturally, you are ready to conquer another chick. Its biological, don't feel so bad.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by something cooler

Hey asshole, this is your fault. Seriously. You gave me shitty advice. And when dakcman talks about being awesome from now on I am going to be less inclined to believe he is.

Really? **** dude, I don't know what I said that was bad, but I'm sorry.

If you want pm me.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by Buck

Really? **** dude, I don't know what I said that was bad, but I'm sorry.

If you want pm me.

I'm just ****ing around with you.

I took the advice to ask her what was going on and be up front with my feelings. Bad idea.

[luv]

I think one thing I've learned, and that others probably need to realize, is that dating does not mean you're in a relationship. May just be me, but if you go from one date out to sleeping over or going to the other person's place every time, then you're trying too hard to jump to relationship status. Unless you're just in it for the hook up, dating should be a fun time getting to know each other with sex thrown in. Not vice versa.

#JMO #StillSingle

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by luv

I think one thing I've learned, and that others probably need to realize, is that dating does not mean you're in a relationship. May just be me, but if you go from one date out to sleeping over or going to the other person's place every time, then you're trying too hard to jump to relationship status. Unless you're just in it for the hook up, dating should be a fun time getting to know each other with sex thrown in. Not vice versa.

#JMO #StillSingle

This was in the WSJ today:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...?mod=djemITP_h

Give Monogamy a Chance
Students, who in class recognize the ethical imperative not to use other people as means to an end, do so every night in their dorms..

By EMILY ESFAHANI SMITH

The hit HBO series "Girls," which is wildly popular with 20-something audiences, is also notorious for its frank portrayals of the dark side of the casual-sex culture reigning among America's young adults. In the first season of the show, the main character, Hannah (played by Lena Dunham), finds herself in a dysfunctional relationship with an actor, Adam, whom she regularly sleeps with but isn't dating in the traditional sense. She really likes him, though, so she asks him one day, during intercourse, "You want me to call you?" His response is to push her head down into a pillow.

For decades now, young women have been taught by popular culture that casual sex is supposed to be liberating. Shows like "Sex and the City" sent the message that promiscuity was at worst no big deal and at best empowering. But stories like those on "Girls," and those in Donna Freitas's illuminating new book, "The End of Sex," suggest that for many young women it proves instead to be dehumanizing. Using extensive survey research and dozens of interviews with young men and women on college campuses across the country, Ms. Freitas explodes the myth of the "harmless hookup."

The hookup, as Ms. Freitas defines it, is meant to be "an efficient form of sexual interaction." To qualify, a sexual encounter must be brief—lasting "as short as a few minutes to as long as several hours over a single night"—and it must be "purely physical in nature." One freshman at a Catholic college sums it up this way for the author: "There are no strings. You just do it, you're done, and you can forget about it." Among its practitioners, first base is tonsil-hockey and home plate is learning each other's names, as Tom Wolfe put it over a decade ago. The point is simply to have sex (often very bad sex) with no emotional bond formed with one's partner. The basic human desire to love and be loved is a sign of weakness here, and traditional courtship—exchanging high-fives over a game of beer-pong doesn't count—has no role.

A professor of religious studies at Boston University, Ms. Freitas draws a portrait of life on campus in which sex is almost completely decoupled from eroticism. One college woman describes juggling three men at once; a male student admits that a hookup is just a "trial run" for a date; a third student explains that oral sex is "almost expected" in a hookup: "People have these urges and they are trying to satisfy them." Sex on campus, writes the author, has been reduced to a solitary and selfish act—basically, onanism "with another person present."

In other words, many college students, who in philosophy class would surely recognize the ethical imperative not to use other people as means to an end, do so every night in their dorms. This selfishness is why, as Ms. Freitas argues, the hookup culture is intimately related to sexual assault. In both, one person uses another to satisfy a sexual or social desire without any regard for what that other person wants, needs or feels. Once alcohol is added to the mix, and there is plenty of it in the hookup culture, consent becomes a murky issue.

According to various academic studies, 65% to 75% of undergraduates report having participated in the hookup culture. But many are troubled by it. In a survey that Ms. Freitas gave to 1,010 students from Catholic and secular institutions, around 50% had reservations about whether casual sex is acceptable. Three quarters of the respondents objected to the notion, central to the hookup culture, that "sex is primarily the taking of pleasure from another person." And contrary to depictions in popular culture, men are just as troubled by casual sex as women are.

So why do they do it? Social pressure plays a large role. But there is something else. College students may not be lusting after sex so much as they are chasing after relationships. In our wider culture, where more and more interactions are occurring via text messages, Facebook, FB +3.97%Twitter and email rather than face-to-face or at the very least on the phone, students are yearning for meaningful connections. Hooking up offers an immediate substitute for the relationships and romance that young people admit they want, but without the constraints and sacrifices that authentic relationships require.

Ms. Freitas's book is a timely and alarming wake-up call to students, college administrators and parents, and she presents a compelling argument against the hookup culture. Less convincing are her ideas for fixing it. The author, whose own thinking is firmly rooted in the feminist left, thinks administrators on campus could do more, for instance, to educate students about healthy sexuality—even though, given the politically correct bureaucrats that administer most campuses, there are already plenty of consciousness-raising events pushing messages that overlap with and complement hookup norms, such as replacing Valentine's Day with "Vagina Week."

In the book's conclusion, Ms. Freitas says that she wants young adults to have "good sex," a category that can include, she suggests, hooking up—as long as students recognize that casual sex is "just one option among many." Yet this jars with the nearly 200 preceding pages on the corrosive effects of casual sex. She also wants students to "feel empowered" by their sexual decisions and to recognize that "it is their right to define what they want out of sex"—even though feminists who champion the hookup culture rely on the same rhetoric. Their ideas about liberation and empowerment, like the hookup culture itself, treat human sexuality as a social and political battlefield. In the end, though, sex isn't a political act, nor is it about empowerment. It is one part of a complete relationship between two people. Meaningful sex is grounded in love and commitment, not power—an insight students seem to intuitively grasp, even if they don't act on it.

Ms. Esfahani Smith is an associate editor of the New Criterion and editor of the pop-culture blog Acculturated.

A version of this article appeared April 10, 2013, on page A11 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: Give Monogamy A Chance.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by luv

I think one thing I've learned, and that others probably need to realize, is that dating does not mean you're in a relationship. May just be me, but if you go from one date out to sleeping over or going to the other person's place every time, then you're trying too hard to jump to relationship status. Unless you're just in it for the hook up, dating should be a fun time getting to know each other with sex thrown in. Not vice versa.

#JMO #StillSingle

I think this is a great statement. I hate when people use hash tags outside of Twitter, though.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by luv

I think one thing I've learned, and that others probably need to realize, is that dating does not mean you're in a relationship. May just be me, but if you go from one date out to sleeping over or going to the other person's place every time, then you're trying too hard to jump to relationship status. Unless you're just in it for the hook up, dating should be a fun time getting to know each other with sex thrown in. Not vice versa.

#JMO #StillSingle

If you put it in her ass are you in a relationship then?

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

If you put it in her ass are you in a relationship then?

For as long as it's in there you are.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by Buck

I think that I might have just had a bad morning and made a dumb decision because now I feel shitty as hell.

yeah. what did you say?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We'll get back together Monday or Tuesday night for Date #5 before she goes to Orlando for work on Thurs-Fri.

Abooouuttt that...