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Old 04-26-2013, 09:49 AM  
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Expectations for Fisher
So, we took the best LT available in the entire draft. Looks to be a good pick.


What are the expectations for him, year 1? By year 2? Year 5?

Depending on what they do with Albert will make a difference, but assuming they trade Albert.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:23 AM   #121
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Why not? The #1 overall pick you expect excellence not mediocrity. It's that easy, and it's the cruel truth.
No, the cruel truth is that this was a lackluster draft class. Again, what was your alternative? I laid them all out for you and they were no better than picking Fisher.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:29 AM   #122
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No, the cruel truth is that this was a lackluster draft class. Again, what was your alternative? I laid them all out for you and they were no better than picking Fisher.

Dude, just stop with compromising BS. He has to be great or it was a lateral move, KC could've picked a premium Pass Rusher and you can only look no further than NYG program to get what they are worth through a 16 game season and playoffs. Which is one of the main reasons the Giants always shine in the postseason, because they always have fresh legs going after the QB with minimal dings because of that depth.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:53 AM   #123
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:37 AM   #124
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Fisher was a good pick and if he's as good as Albert, that's fine.
No it isn't, and only a ****ing moron like you would suggest using the #1 overall selection in the draft to select a player that doesn't improve the position he plays in any way is a fine use of the pick.

That is mind boggling stupid.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:07 AM   #125
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Top 10 LT next year

Top 5 LT the rest of his career.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:11 AM   #126
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I expect him to be elite out of the gate.

anything else will disappoint me

however, watching the draft unfold...he was clearly the right pick
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:15 AM   #127
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No it isn't, and only a ****ing moron like you would suggest using the #1 overall selection in the draft to select a player that doesn't improve the position he plays in any way is a fine use of the pick.

That is mind boggling stupid.
Nobody in the top 10 fits that bill. Except Geno Smith, who fell a full round and maybe Dee Milliner. The Chiefs had no good options. This was a fine bad option. At the very least, you can grab a decent 2014 pick out of Albert and save $5-6M a year.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:19 AM   #128
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Dude, just stop with compromising BS. He has to be great or it was a lateral move, KC could've picked a premium Pass Rusher and you can only look no further than NYG program to get what they are worth through a 16 game season and playoffs. Which is one of the main reasons the Giants always shine in the postseason, because they always have fresh legs going after the QB with minimal dings because of that depth.
I'm not compromising. I'm talking about the reality that you keep talking as if we had these unbelievable alternatives we missed out on. It was a shitty draft class. Nobody wanted to trade up and the only team that did gave up a measley 2nd rounder. I would have been fine with Dion Jordan, but you are reaching by getting pissy about not taking a visible upgrade over the current starter, then claiming that the guy we should have taken was a depth guy who could be a future starter.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:19 AM   #129
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look I think Branden Albert was a very serviceable tackle

but he did have a knack for being injured

he is getting older

and he is going to be expensive

and there is absolutely no reason to believe Fisher won't be an upgrade

Albert was good, but he certainly wasn't elite.

And for 1 year we'll have the best RT we've had since Tait...and he may even be better. That's not exciting but it's definitely an upgrade.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:29 AM   #130
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Nobody in the top 10 fits that bill. Except Geno Smith, who fell a full round and maybe Dee Milliner. The Chiefs had no good options. This was a fine bad option. At the very least, you can grab a decent 2014 pick out of Albert and save $5-6M a year.
I don't give a rat's ass if Dee Millner is the only guy that fits that bill.

If he is, then that's the guy you draft, if you believe that Eric Fisher is Branden Albert's equal.

You don't use the #1 overall pick to ****ing stand pat.

The only way that Eric Fisher is a fine pick is if you believe he significantly upgrades the LT position.

If you believe that he doesn't then you simply pissed away the pick.

This is not a commentary on Eric Fisher, or an opinion of his potential.

This is a comment about the sheer ****ing stupidity of your post that I originally responded to.

You're a ****ing idiot.
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I'm going to assume he can at least play at the level Eric Winston did last year: 3 sacks, 6 hits, 25 pressures.

Total pressure benchmark for Eric Fisher: 34.
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Milkman,

If you honestly still believe Geno should have gone #1 when he went #39...

I don't know what to tell you.
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Milkman,

If you honestly still believe Geno should have gone #1 when he went #39...

I don't know what to tell you.
I am not talking about geno Smith.

I am talking about a post that says that if our #1 overall pick plays at the same level as the guy he replaces, then it's a fine pick.

If that is all that is expected from that pick, then it's a waste of that pick.

If you believe that a guy like Millner, or Tavon Austin, for instance, or Sheldon Richardson significantly upgrades your team at their respective positions, and Eric Fisher doesn't, then you take one of those guys.
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The smart move would have been to trade down and pick up Geno in the late teens or 20s.

Shit, that would have been masterful.
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He's the #1 pick in the draft. He better f'ing own.
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