10 Keys to Success or Failure for the 2013 Chiefs

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by patteeu

There have been more Super Bowl winning QBs who were acquired through trade or free agency (9) than who were taken in the top 10 picks of the draft by the team they took to a SB championship (7).*


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* This excludes John Elway and Eli Manning who both refused to play for the team that was in a position to draft them. If you count them, it's actually 11-7.

Why are you using top ten picks?

oh because that is what allows you try to make a point.

You lose
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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Why are you using top ten picks?

oh because that is what allows you try to make a point.

You lose
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No, you lose. I used top 10 picks because any other pick is one that you could get to without being a really horrible team. Go 10-6 with a so-called game manager who can't get you to the Super Bowl and you're still in position where you can trade up to the 11-15 range.

But let's be more generous and expand the category to include all QBs taken in the first half of the 1st round. That adds Ben Roethlisberger. Now it's 9-8 in favor of QBs acquired via free agent or trade. Even if you expand the category to the entire 1st round, it only goes to 9-9 with the addition of Joe Flacco.

The bottom line is that it's a myth that teams have been more successful finding Super Bowl winning QBs by taking one in the first round than by getting them through other means. And it's definitely a myth that you have to have a bad record to be in position to find your QBotF.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by patteeu

No, you lose. I used top 10 picks because any other pick is one that you could get to without being a really horrible team. Go 10-6 with a so-called game manager who can't get you to the Super Bowl and you're still in position where you can trade up to the 11-15 range.

But let's be more generous and expand the category to include all QBs taken in the first half of the 1st round. That adds Ben Roethlisberger. Now it's 9-8 in favor of QBs acquired via free agent or trade. Even if you expand the category to the entire 1st round, it only goes to 9-9 with the addition of Joe Flacco.

The bottom line is that it's a myth that teams have been more successful finding Super Bowl winning QBs by taking one in the first round than by getting them through other means. And it's definitely a myth that you have to have a bad record to be in position to find your QBotF.

And again none of this has anything to do with the conversation going on. You just came up with it out of no where
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