Chiefs What to expect from Justin Houston this year - Page 3

RunKC · 05-17-2013, 10:01 PM

His rookie year he had obvious struggles in the first half of the season, but ever since then he's been on fire.

He's gotten 15.5 sacks in his last 21 games and 5 of those games he got multiple sacks.

The astonishing part about this is that he was just getting the hang of the NFL his rookie year and last year he didn't get to pin his ears back until week 9. And on top of that, Romeo was stupid and put dropped him into coverage far too much, even on 3rd down sometimes.

With him getting better and better and finally playing in an attack-style defense, what do you believe is the accurate prediction for his sack total this year?

I'm gonna say 15. If there is one player I'm going full homer on this year, it's him.

ChiefAshhole20 · 05-18-2013, 07:07 PM

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Called back right?

Wasn't that the 2nd TD call they got boned on? Don't recall if it was a legit call or not. I know for sure they got ****ed against Baltimore.

How easily this team could have beaten playoff caliber teams like Balt, Pitt, Indy, and Denver last year with even DECENT QB play.

THAT'S the reason I'm excited about Alex. Not because he is great by any means, but because this team was so close to beating quality teams with absolute trash at QB and HC. Now we have Above-average to good candidates at both spots, so now I can't wait to see how we do

Pasta Little Brioni · 05-18-2013, 07:33 PM

Yup, it's nice to have the best coach in the division

**hometeam** · 05-18-2013, 07:42 PM

Houston is gonna go straight up waterboy on that ass.

Prison Bitch · 05-18-2013, 07:49 PM

If Justin Houston gets 15 sacks this year, I'll piss into a water bottle and guzzle it in front of the entire ChiefsPlanet.

Saccopoo · 05-18-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I expect to see a lot more of this this season.

My god...Bailey is an absolute specimen.

You guys wanting some one gap penetration from the defensive end position are about to get it.

I still think that they should be and likely will be running some 46 sets out of this defense. Powe, Poe, Bailey and Berry are absolutely tailor made for it. Sutton has experience in the 46 under Ryan and I can't think that he's looking at Powe and Poe and just salivating to put that look out every once and a while.

beach tribe · 05-18-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

If Justin Houston gets 15 sacks this year, I'll piss into a water bottle and guzzle it in front of the entire ChiefsPlanet.

You are either brave or stupid.
He is more than capable if turned loose.

Sorter · 05-18-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

My god...Bailey is an absolute specimen.

You guys wanting some one gap penetration from the defensive end position are about to get it.

I still think that they should be and likely will be running some 46 sets out of this defense. Powe, Poe, Bailey and Berry are absolutely tailor made for it. Sutton has experience in the 46 under Ryan and I can't think that he's looking at Powe and Poe and just salivating to put that look out every once and a while.

As far as personnel goes, there's no reason why you couldn't get a few 46 snaps each game.

I love(d) Bailey and am a pretty big homer but I'm not sure he's the answer at the 3. Serviceable, maybe. I really want a dominating 3-tech though to pair with Tamba/Houston. Can you imagine Geno Atkins/Watt/Smith/Richardson on this team?

Sorter · 05-18-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

If Justin Houston gets 15 sacks this year, I'll piss into a water bottle and guzzle it in front of the entire ChiefsPlanet.

I've actually seen someone make that bet on a forum and own up to it.

****ing disgusting. AbitoftheoldUltraviolence was his name.

RunKC · 05-18-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

As far as personnel goes, there's no reason why you couldn't get a few 46 snaps each game.

I love(d) Bailey and am a pretty big homer but I'm not sure he's the answer at the 3. Serviceable, maybe. I really want a dominating 3-tech though to pair with Tamba/Houston. Can you imagine Geno Atkins/Watt/Smith/Richardson on this team?

I think that's what the defense is missing from being a capable top 5 unit: a true presence on the DL. I really hope Poe becomes a monster in this system.

Sucks because a good DL will help help everybody out so much.

Sorter · 05-18-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I think that's what the defense is missing from being a capable top 5 unit: a true presence on the DL. I really hope Poe becomes a monster in this system.

Sucks because a good DL will help help everybody out so much.

That's why I wanted Sheldon at 1.1.

If that guy gets his shit together, he's going to be incredibly effective. There wasn't a 3 tech prospect like him in this draft and I doubt there's going to be one this year (granted, I'm fairly ignorant as to this year's 3 techs right now).

RunKC · 05-18-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

That's why I wanted Sheldon at 1.1.

If that guy gets his shit together, he's going to be incredibly effective. There wasn't a 3 tech prospect like him in this draft and I doubt there's going to be one this year (granted, I'm fairly ignorant as to this year's 3 techs right now).

What about Datone Jones? I really liked him as a prospect. Rocked up 280 lbs and very fast with a motor.

Sorter · 05-19-2013, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

What about Datone Jones? I really liked him as a prospect. Rocked up 280 lbs and very fast with a motor.

I like Jones but he isn't the same as far as explosiveness, technique, and physicality goes.

it didn't seem to me that there was another interior pass rusher with the skills and versatility in this draft like Sheldon. I really, really want one of those next to Houston for subs. If they can do it out of base fronts too, that's an added bonus. Just think of it like this: Going up against an empty look, we'd likely have a sub front of Hali, Poe, Sheldon, and Houston. You would have to leave a back or TE in on nearly all of your 5-step concepts as you can't effectively block that 4 man front out of a 5 man pro scheme due to the matchups. Additionally, Sheldon is athletic enough to drop and utilize some fun FZ concepts.

Saccopoo · 05-19-2013, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

As far as personnel goes, there's no reason why you couldn't get a few 46 snaps each game.

I love(d) Bailey and am a pretty big homer but I'm not sure he's the answer at the 3. Serviceable, maybe. I really want a dominating 3-tech though to pair with Tamba/Houston. Can you imagine Geno Atkins/Watt/Smith/Richardson on this team?

I think that you are going to see a different Allen Bailey this next season. I thought he flashed a lot more his rookie year than he did last season, which I'm going to chalk up to piss poor coaching. And he really didn't see the field that much last season as it looked like they were attempting to get as many reps for Dorsey as they could for whatever reason.

Anyway, I thought that Bailey during his rookie season was able to get better penetration than anybody else on the defensive line.

And if you are wanting a Sheldon Richardson guy, Bailey was/is that guy. His combine numbers were outstanding:

6'3"
285 lbs.
34 1/2" arms
4.71 40 yard dash
27 reps
36.5" vertical
117" broad
4.56 20 shuttle
7.43 cone

Those are amazing numbers for a guy his size. And here's his overview by nfl.com:

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Bailey could occupy a few different roles in a 4-3 defense. May find a home as a strong side end or at defensive tackle and certainly provides a coordinator the versatility to move him around. Uses his hands, power moves and good get off to pressure the passer. Very complete against the run. Holds his base very well, gets off blocks, fights through double teams and is a sure tackler when arriving at the ball-carrier. Shows sound awareness and positioning on the field. Relentless in pursuit either from the backside or down the field. Bailey's a probable first round pick.

Compared to Richardson:

6'2"
294 lbs.
34 1/2" arms
5.02 40 yard dash
30 reps bench
32" vertical
113" broad

I'd say that Bailey compares favorably and put up better numbers in college than Richardson.

I think that we're going to be okay with Bailey filling that subpackage rush end/tackle this next year.

And, as I said, I think he'd be perfect for that RDE in a 46 defense. (I really hope we'll use the 46 this next year. The personnel we have are damn near perfect for it.)

**Rausch** · 05-19-2013, 06:49 AM

Considering some of the piss poor offensive lines we'll play I think 13 is reasonable and 10+ should be expected...

Saccopoo · 05-19-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

That's why I wanted Sheldon at 1.1.

If that guy gets his shit together, he's going to be incredibly effective. There wasn't a 3 tech prospect like him in this draft and I doubt there's going to be one this year (granted, I'm fairly ignorant as to this year's 3 techs right now).

Stephen Tuitt, Jr.; Notre Dame seems to be that guy.

6'5", 305 lbs. with long arms and an ability to get into the backfield, he led the Irish in sacks with 12. Very similar to current St. Louis Rams defensive tackle/former LSU DT Michael Brockers. Possesses identical size and ability to disrupt the line and get into the backfield. Their frames, build type are nearly identical and I think he has better initial burst than Brockers, though I don't think he'll measure out at 6'5", 305. Looks more like 6'3"/6'4" 285 lbs. when you watch him. Doesn't seem to have the lower body mass to come up to 305.

Jadeveon Clowney is getting all the press right now, but Tuitt with his insane size could challenge him as the first player/defensive player off the board in the 2104 Draft - if he declares, as he'll be a junior this next season.

He's already been mocked to the Chiefs in a couple of 2014 preseason mocks:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

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