**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#18 AP/ #20 Coaches (10-4,1-0)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference
11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)
Conference

Spoiler!

1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. 1 p.m.
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa 8 p.m.
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas 8 p.m.
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas 3 p.m.
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas 6 p.m.
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas 7 p.m.
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. 6:30 p.m.
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. 8 p.m.
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. 7 p.m.
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. 11 a.m.
Big 12 Championship
3/12-15/2014 TBD Kansas City, Mo. TBD Details

[chiefqueen]

Originally Posted by Silock

Their Ace in the hole is MetroSports? Lol

That's not an Ace. That's not even a face card.

TWC's "Ace" is never agreeing to let Google Fiber enter into an agreement to include MetroSports in their TV Line-up therefore making those of us who are wanting to "ditch" TWC altogether "OK do I want Google's TV Service or do I want to be able to see KU BB and FB games?" (At least 2 Jayhawk FB would be shown on MetroSports including the TX game.)

I think TWC's mindset is that while they cannot get people to stay with their Internet Service, thhey can at least make people think twice about dumping their cable service with them if subscribers knew they only way they could watch every KU BB this season would be if they remained w/TWC for cable service.

[chiefqueen]

Here is Matt Tait's blog for further clarification

http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tal...s-announced-t/

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

TWC's "Ace" is never agreeing to let Google Fiber enter into an agreement to include MetroSports in their TV Line-up therefore making those of us who are wanting to "ditch" TWC altogether "OK do I want Google's TV Service or do I want to be able to see KU BB and FB games?" (At least 2 Jayhawk FB would be shown on MetroSports including the TX game.)

I think TWC's mindset is that while they cannot get people to stay with their Internet Service, thhey can at least make people think twice about dumping their cable service with them if subscribers knew they only way they could watch every KU BB this season would be if they remained w/TWC for cable service.

or just stream it on PC using Google Fiber or get your friend's Watch ESPN app password and watch it on Xbox using Google Fiber.

[chiefsfan987]

I guess I still don't understand how they think they expanded their national exposure. Seems like they're getting the same national exposure as they had before they did the deal to me. It also sounds like they reduced their local exposure as if you don't have metrosports you're just going to miss those six games. Guy representing KU just said about 20 minutes ago or so on 810 that if you don't have metro sports you'll have to go over to a friends house that does.

[Bambi]

I think you guys are missing the point of the deal just a bit. KU is going national here and frankly isn't really concerned with the local markets as they know they already have those well in control.

I have Time Warner in NY and I can tell you that every day there are channels popping up (many sports and university oriented) that carry all kinds of content. That's what KU is looking to do. KU fans in every city will now get access to the 6 ball games you could only see on Jayhawk TV before and now all these other games (volleyball, women's basketball, track, etc...)

That's what the Big 10 Network does. This way KU basically has it's own Big 10 network focused solely on them. The trick here is that it's only available to Time Warner customers but from what I can tell TW is attempting to pretty much take over every last customer in the country and they are convinced sports is a great way to get there.

This is all about a push for a greater national presence for KU. IMG and Time Warner sure seem to think KU is worth the $$.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Bambi

I think you guys are missing the point of the deal just a bit. KU is going national here and frankly isn't really concerned with the local markets as they know they already have those well in control.

I have Time Warner in NY and I can tell you that every day there are channels popping up (many sports and university oriented) that carry all kinds of content. That's what KU is looking to do. KU fans in every city will now get access to the 6 ball games you could only see on Jayhawk TV before and now all these other games (volleyball, women's basketball, track, etc...)

That's what the Big 10 Network does. This way KU basically has it's own Big 10 network focused solely on them. The trick here is that it's only available to Time Warner customers but from what I can tell TW is attempting to pretty much take over every last customer in the country and they are convinced sports is a great way to get there.

This is all about a push for a greater national presence for KU. IMG and Time Warner sure seem to think KU is worth the $$.

Great. Right after I let go of TWC in favor of DirecTV.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Great. Right after I let go of TWC in favor of DirecTV.

From what I read if you live in the state of Kansas you will still get this network regardless of having TWC. At least the 6 bball games.

TWC is definitely trying to get customers here. Read what Tait wrote about the Lakers situation a couple years ago. People flipped out and they made a deal with Direct TV. Same thing could happen here.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Bambi

From what I read if you live in the state of Kansas you will still get this network regardless of having TWC. At least the 6 bball games.

TWC is definitely trying to get customers here. Read what Tait wrote about the Lakers situation a couple years ago. People flipped out and they made a deal with Direct TV. Same thing could happen here.

Alas...live in LA.

I should get a slingbox and hook it up at my mom's place in OP.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Alas...live in LA.

I should get a slingbox and hook it up at my mom's place in OP.

It's definitely a power move and potential troubling because these cable companies are literally at war trying to get customers to sign up with them exclusively. It works for KU because I'm sure they are getting more $$ from this deal than anyone in the Big 12 besides Texas. It's going to be a huge number.

Not only that but SZ and KU are looking beyond the KCMO area for their brand. They see what college athletics are worth and the fact is there are cable providers out there willing to give KU the exposure.

The Jayhawk Network (or whatever it's going to be called) will be available in every single market that Time Warner exists in. And this isn't a shared thing ala Oklahoma, K State, etc... this is their own channel. It's actually more exposure than the Longhorn Network because local affiliates don't have to "pick it up"... it's going to be apart of the TWC's nationwide network.

Now that doesn't mean it's going to be free. Each subscriber will probably have to pay just like you have to pay for the BTN. Would I pay for it? Sure. But that doesn't mean it's going to be a bonanza with individuals.

The real value to KU here is having that revamped network. It's another piece to a resume that is sure to boost the brand. This is SZ and Co's biggest get since taking over. It's risky in the sense that you're taking a bit of what used to be free away from a few local people... but you're building a huge system that they hope will be value enough for people to switch over to TWC altogether.

TWC thinks that will happen. Otherwise they would have never made this deal.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Speaking of looping, ironic post is ironic.

While I would love to take credit for a purposely ironic post, its either thread AIDZ, or some post merging that got screwed up.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Bambi

I think you guys are missing the point of the deal just a bit. KU is going national here and frankly isn't really concerned with the local markets as they know they already have those well in control.

I think you are missing the point - despite all the clamoring about "this is KANSAS city", they just turned their back on their biggest market.

Even the sports bars in KC wont have access to games because every bar has DirecTV.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by sedated

I think you are missing the point - despite all the clamoring about "this is KANSAS city", they just turned their back on their biggest market.

Even the sports bars in KC wont have access to games because every bar has DirecTV.

LOL. Come on. They aren't stupid.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by sedated

I think you are missing the point - despite all the clamoring about "this is KANSAS city", they just turned their back on their biggest market.

Even the sports bars in KC wont have access to games because every bar has DirecTV.

I'm not sure. The sports bar I go to has both TWC and Direct TV. Is it an attempt to get more bars and restaurants to buy TWC subscriptions? Maybe.

And if what KK said yesterday is right and KU has written into the agreement that they get a cut of each new subscription from TWC then it's freaking ruthless and more money then they'll ever be able to spend.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Bambi

And if what KK said yesterday is right and KU has written into the agreement that they get a cut of each new subscription from TWC

this is not the case at all according to the associate AD. Here's the summary of his interview yesterday:

"As of right now, if you dont have TWC and live in the KC area, you'll have to go to a friends house to watch...

...this wasnt a monetary decision, thats not what tier 3 is about, its about national exposure...

...(sounds like a great deal for TWC, if subscriptions increase, will KU's benefits increase?) financially? no...

...this deal was struck by IMG (was it exclusively an IMG decision?) it was a joint decision...

...we are proud to have 11 of our 18 sports get the chance to be seen nationally..."

[Braincase]

We should've held out for all you can eat breadsticks at Olive Garden.