Bishop and Leach

[The Bad Guy]

Here's some info I got a little bit ago.

-Chiefs have had more contact with Leach than Leach's agent let on to Bill Williamson of ESPN. On Arrowhead Pride, they had a post yesterday about Terrance Copper's football camp. Bowe, Copper, McCluster recruited Leach heavily during that. Leach and Copper are very close. Leach said at the camp he wants to have a new team within 2 weeks.

-On Bishop, Chiefs are definitely interested should his hamstring check out. It all depends on his contract demands. Bishop was a fantastic player two years ago, but who knows now. He'd be great in the starting lineup with all the LB talent we have. If he's signed, Chiefs would still likely take all the LBs to camp and let it shake out. Zac Diles would feel the squeeze if this were to happen.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by O.city

No time to go read, what's the word?

Everybody knows that the bird is the word. Sheesh.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Leach is 32 years old and was cut by the Super Bowl winning Ravens. Ozzie's not prone to mistakes in personal decisions.

I know that people love fullbacks around here, but I don't think the dropoff between Leach and whomever else would win the starting fullback job would be as great as Bishop (29 years old) that position's starter (Jordan or Johnson).

I don't give a rip about positions, except how they fit into a system.

If we hired josh McDumbass to coach this team, then Leach would not interest me.

But Reid's offense utiilizes the fullback as a weapon in the passing game, and his offense is most effective when he has a quality player at that position.

Top tier fullbacks play well into their 30s.

Tony Richardson and Lorenzo Neal were still playing at All Pro levels when they were 35-36 years old.

Originally Posted by Dante84

*boners crossed*

You're a sword crosser?

[Mother****erJones]

Would love to get leach and bishop. If I had my choice it's bishop. More of a need but man it's nice to have a FB that can pave the way on 3rd and short or on the goaline which we've sucked at.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by penbook

Ian Rapaport said on NFL Total Access that the Vikings may have the upper hand on signing Bishop because of cap space but said Chiefs and Vikings are pushing really hard to sign him. Basically it's between us and the Vikings.

I have to think he'd rather stay in the NFC North to play against his former team. The Chiefs are going to have to overpay to get him.
Not looking good. Guess we'll just have to run with Johnson and Jordan.

[mcaj22]

i dont know who there is to even cut to make room

it's a couple guys making a lot of money then a bunch of depth players on cheap deals. there's really no middle of the road guys except for the front loaded FAs they signed this year.

god damn Albert/Jackson take up like 19 million in cap between the two, if only one could have been worked down

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Jackson did take a paycut

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

Jackson did take a paycut

He should be gone after this year...

[mcaj22]

he's still making a **** load of money for 2 years lol

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't give a rip about positions, except how they fit into a system.

If we hired josh McDumbass to coach this team, then Leach would not interest me.

But Reid's offense utiilizes the fullback as a weapon in the passing game, and his offense is most effective when he has a quality player at that position.

Top tier fullbacks play well into their 30s.

Tony Richardson and Lorenzo Neal were still playing at All Pro levels when they were 35-36 years old.

On that I agree.

But given a a pro-bowl-quality ILB or a probowl FB I'll go ILB every time...

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

Jackson did take a paycut

He should take a job cut

[Mav]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

That's valid, though I still think he stinks

And you could be right. I didn't even know who the hell the guy was. lol. I was just trying to play devils advocate.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i dont know who there is to even cut to make room

it's a couple guys making a lot of money then a bunch of depth players on cheap deals. there's really no middle of the road guys except for the front loaded FAs they signed this year.

god damn Albert/Jackson take up like 19 million in cap between the two, if only one could have been worked down

If you can get Bishop, you cut whoever you need to, to get the guy. If he is healthy, him along side DJ? This guy single handedly made Aj Hawk look serviceable.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i dont know who there is to even cut to make room

it's a couple guys making a lot of money then a bunch of depth players on cheap deals. there's really no middle of the road guys except for the front loaded FAs they signed this year.

god damn Albert/Jackson take up like 19 million in cap between the two, if only one could have been worked down

It would have to be a restructure or extension situation. Berry or Albert being the most likely extension and Hali being the most likely restructure.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It would have to be a restructure or extension situation. Berry or Albert being the most likely extension and Hali being the most likely restructure.

Something tells me Albert isn't getting extended...

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Something tells me Albert isn't getting extended...

That to me, is going to be on how they value Donald Stephenson, and they probably wanted a year to see if he was the long term solution at right tackle, before deciding whether or not to extend Albert. You have to imagine at this point, they are thinking its a win win. Either Stephenson can handle the right tackle, and they can let Albert walk next season, or they decide he cant, and resign him, and keep Eric Fisher at right tackle. Smart on the Chiefs part.