Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.?

Carlota69 · 07-10-2013, 07:32 AM

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I guess not. Maybe it's because I fast forward through the commercials or the fact that I know many super hot women that are married to guys that are in very good shape. I can't think of a single "fat man" that's married to a hot woman that I know of, have seen or know personally.

If you're using People magazine as your baseline, then yeah, images are skewed. But is that people in real life base their views upon?

FWIW, Connery was named sexiest man alive in 1989, when he was 59 years old.

I have to thoroughly disagree. I see plenty of beautiful women in their 30's, 40's and 50's that wear flattering one piece bathing suits and even bikinis without issue.

To contrary, I rarely, if ever, see fat guys walking around in Speedos. Sure, there are overweight men that don't mind going shirtless with board shorts but Speedos?

If you're a "normal" person for your age range, there shouldn't be an issue. If you're obese for your age range, I can understand the body issue but there's nothing wrong with a nice one-piece.

Personally, I think it's more mental than physical. Either your confident in yourself, or you're not.

Ok, whatever dude...it's common knowledge that society puts different standards on women than men, but good for you that your bubble is safe from that. I applaud your world.

TheGuardian · 07-10-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Ok, whatever dude...it's common knowledge that society puts different standards on women than men, but good for you that your bubble is safe from that. I applaud your world.

Most definitely. While I think there is a push for men to be "Sexier" or more fit, I see tons of women that are hot, take care of themselves, etc with slob ugly dudes.

It has nothing to do with his wallet or the size of his junk either (that never made sense to me, what'd he do just walk up and pull it out, and she swooned?)

Generally a lot of women settle in the looks department because well, there aren't a lot of attractive guys out there to choose from. The ones that are, are generally either already taken, or like to "run around" a lot. So a woman who has experienced this leaves with a lot of bitterness in regards to being with good looking men.

So they settle. So the chubby ugly guy can still get a hot chic, if his game is pretty good, i.e. good sense of humor, makes her feel comfortable, she finds him interesting, etc.

So the guys don't have the same pressure from a looks standpoint that women do. Women are expected to be beautiful, and this is what their attention from men gets based around. That and that alone, at least in getting early attention. Where a woman is more open to giving a guy a chance, even if he doesn't quite meet her standards in the look department.

Silock · 07-10-2013, 08:17 AM

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Most definitely. While I think there is a push for men to be "Sexier" or more fit, I see tons of women that are hot, take care of themselves, etc with slob ugly dudes.

It has nothing to do with his wallet or the size of his junk either (that never made sense to me, what'd he do just walk up and pull it out, and she swooned?)

Generally a lot of women settle in the looks department because well, there aren't a lot of attractive guys out there to choose from. The ones that are, are generally either already taken, or like to "run around" a lot. So a woman who has experienced this leaves with a lot of bitterness in regards to being with good looking men.

So they settle. So the chubby ugly guy can still get a hot chic, if his game is pretty good, i.e. good sense of humor, makes her feel comfortable, she finds him interesting, etc.

So the guys don't have the same pressure from a looks standpoint that women do. Women are expected to be beautiful, and this is what their attention from men gets based around. That and that alone, at least in getting early attention. Where a woman is more open to giving a guy a chance, even if he doesn't quite meet her standards in the look department.

I'm in better shape than my wife. It's annoying. She has no gym work ethic. If I want her to really buckle down, I have to make her go with me.

TheGuardian · 07-10-2013, 08:39 AM

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I'm in better shape than my wife. It's annoying. She has no gym work ethic. If I want her to really buckle down, I have to make her go with me.

Funny. Most of the most fit women I see now are in their 40's.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-10-2013, 10:03 AM

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Funny. Most of the most fit women I see now are in their 40's.

Spinning, Pilates and yoga?

TheGuardian · 07-10-2013, 10:08 AM

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Spinning, Pilates and yoga?

No I see them lifting and getting after it. Everytime I'm at the pool or somewhere out the hottest most in shape chics are the 40-something moms.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-10-2013, 10:11 AM

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No I see them lifting and getting after it. Everytime I'm at the pool or somewhere out the hottest most in shape chics are the 40-something moms.

Really? Lifting? Wow. Out here, all the yummy mommies are into Pilates, Bikram, spinning, stairs and hiking at places like Griffith Park and Runyon Canyon.

NewChief · 07-10-2013, 10:13 AM

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I'm in better shape than my wife. It's annoying. She has no gym work ethic. If I want her to really buckle down, I have to make her go with me.

My wife is a gym rat, but she refused to branch out for years, sticking to her Les Mills classes. I've finally got her doing some different stuff within the last month, and I'm hoping she starts to see results from it to build up her confidence in going out on her own.

I told her that her ass will never look like mine (I have a nice ass, no self homo) until she starts squatting and dead lifting some real weight, not the bullshit they do in Body Pump.

**Saul Good** · 07-10-2013, 02:27 PM

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I'm in better shape than my wife. It's annoying. She has no gym work ethic. If I want her to really buckle down, I have to make her go with me.

You need to have her start a fitness routine. Every day, have her log her exercises, eating habits, etc. and post it to CP along with several topless photographs of herself standing in front of the mirror. I think you will find that she gets motivated to really look good.

Silock · 07-10-2013, 02:31 PM

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You need to have her start a fitness routine. Every day, have her log her exercises, eating habits, etc. and post it to CP along with several topless photographs of herself standing in front of the mirror. I think you find that she gets motivated to really look good.

LOL

I've tried, believe me. She'll get on it for a few weeks and then just gradually quit.

She does enough that she stays thin. But she's not the athletic-slim body type that I really love (although she easily could be if she'd just stick with it long enough).

The only thing that she ever did consistently was when she had a personal trainer (an older lady, actually in her late 40s) and did pilates. But, that shit is super expensive. Like . . . $300/mo expensive.

TheGuardian · 07-10-2013, 03:08 PM

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LOL

I've tried, believe me. She'll get on it for a few weeks and then just gradually quit.

She does enough that she stays thin. But she's not the athletic-slim body type that I really love (although she easily could be if she'd just stick with it long enough).

The only thing that she ever did consistently was when she had a personal trainer (an older lady, actually in her late 40s) and did pilates. But, that shit is super expensive. Like . . . $300/mo expensive.

It's hard to get someone to love something they feel is a chore. Eventually it takes or it doesn't. But the "need" has to be there first, or it eventually has to develop.

Silock · 07-10-2013, 04:43 PM

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It's hard to get someone to love something they feel is a chore. Eventually it takes or it doesn't. But the "need" has to be there first, or it eventually has to develop.

Yup. I tried to like running once. Once. I just can't do it. I'm not a runner. I get bored. So, I can see how someone else would get bored of exercise if they aren't passionate about it.

Carlota69 · 07-10-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Most definitely. While I think there is a push for men to be "Sexier" or more fit, I see tons of women that are hot, take care of themselves, etc with slob ugly dudes.

It has nothing to do with his wallet or the size of his junk either (that never made sense to me, what'd he do just walk up and pull it out, and she swooned?)

Generally a lot of women settle in the looks department because well, there aren't a lot of attractive guys out there to choose from. The ones that are, are generally either already taken, or like to "run around" a lot. So a woman who has experienced this leaves with a lot of bitterness in regards to being with good looking men.

So they settle. So the chubby ugly guy can still get a hot chic, if his game is pretty good, i.e. good sense of humor, makes her feel comfortable, she finds him interesting, etc.

So the guys don't have the same pressure from a looks standpoint that women do. Women are expected to be beautiful, and this is what their attention from men gets based around. That and that alone, at least in getting early attention. Where a woman is more open to giving a guy a chance, even if he doesn't quite meet her standards in the look department.

Exactly.

Carlota69 · 07-10-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Most definitely. While I think there is a push for men to be "Sexier" or more fit, I see tons of women that are hot, take care of themselves, etc with slob ugly dudes.

It has nothing to do with his wallet or the size of his junk either (that never made sense to me, what'd he do just walk up and pull it out, and she swooned?)

Generally a lot of women settle in the looks department because well, there aren't a lot of attractive guys out there to choose from. The ones that are, are generally either already taken, or like to "run around" a lot. So a woman who has experienced this leaves with a lot of bitterness in regards to being with good looking men.

So they settle. So the chubby ugly guy can still get a hot chic, if his game is pretty good, i.e. good sense of humor, makes her feel comfortable, she finds him interesting, etc.

So the guys don't have the same pressure from a looks standpoint that women do. Women are expected to be beautiful, and this is what their attention from men gets based around. That and that alone, at least in getting early attention. Where a woman is more open to giving a guy a chance, even if he doesn't quite meet her standards in the look department.

There's also the thinking that men are more visual and women are more about emotions, personality and bringing home the bacon capabilities. You know the joke, if the girl is hot and serving french fries at McDonalds, the dude doesn't care, he still wants to date her. But the other way around, the girl wouldn't give the guy the time of day cuz she want a man who can provide?

Although, I think women are becoming more and more demanding of the guy being in shape like you said above...

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-10-2013, 09:57 AM

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Ok, whatever dude...it's common knowledge that society puts different standards on women than men, but good for you that your bubble is safe from that. I applaud your world.

You seem very bitter. I wasn't trying to insult you but it's clear that you live in a different head space than I do.