Chiefs Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter offense" - Page 19

Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

Kaepernick · 07-20-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I think the argument is ironic.

Alex lacks what Ryan has and Ryan lacks what Alex has.

Their only common point is the inability to get over the hump...

Geez, they said this about Flacco too. Said it about Elway, said it about Steve Young. Flacco played fine in 2011 and yet people STILL said it about Flacco, when you could see he was a solid top 10, closing in on top 5 kind of QB.

Ryan has the ability to "get over the hump" and so does Schaub. Geez.

ChiefsCountry · 07-20-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Ryan has the ability to "get over the hump" and so does Schaub. Geez.

Ryan does yes. Schaub no.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-20-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

You get really mad when I talk shit on your precious boo boo QB.

It's going to be enjoyable watching you be destroyed.

After this season you will never again post here.

Can't WAIT to watch the Gifs of Destiny DESTROY THESE MOTHER****ERS.

Epic, it will be.

Kaepernick · 07-20-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Some of that has to do with Who he was throwing to don't you think? The only true deep threat we had last year besides Vernon, was Kyle Williams. I don't consider Crabtree a deep threat, and Randy Moss certainly is not a deep threat anymore. Good to see you Kaep, how ya been?

Kaepernick had no problem doubling Smith's deep passing production and did so without Mario Manningham or Kyle Williams. Kaep even found Delaney Walker on deep routes. That is because Kaep looks to go deep and Alex just doesn't.

This dates back to college for Alex. He rarely threw deep for the Utes.

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Originally Posted by Salt Lake Tribune

Utah coach Kyle Whittingham said Smith must prove he can complete the deep downfield balls that he was seldom asked to throw in the Utes' spread offense, because "those NFL defensive backs close in a big hurry."

"For a guy like Alex who has questions about his arm strength, it's a big deal to go out and dispel those misconceptions," Whittingham said. But "I think he has everything he needs. I think he's the best quarterback in the country."

http://archive.sltrib.com/printfrien...6&itype=ngpsid

Kaepernick · 07-20-2013, 11:28 AM

Alex seldom threw deep in college, seldom throws deep in the pros. I detect a pattern here. At least you can't call him inconsistent.

I never caught before that Alex "had questions about his arm strength", until I just found that above article. Add to that a wrecked shoulder. It is not baffling why he doesn't like to throw deep.

Chris Meck · 07-20-2013, 11:34 AM

the list of great QB's is actually full of guys that don't have the prototypical rifle arm. Drew Brees throws deep alot and is accurate, but throws a rainbow. This is also why he throws lot of interceptions, IMO. Brady? not a big arm. Super accurate, peerless decision maker, but not a big arm. Peyton Manning has described his own arm as 'average' in at least one interview I've seen. I think when healthy he's above average as he doesn't get 'air' like, say, Brees does. Some of those Brees passes look like a tightly spiraled punt.

You guys are reaching. You're putting WAY too much emphasis on over the top arm strength. Alex Smith has averagish NFL starting QB arm strength. It's plenty good enough to be effective. He is, by all accounts, accurate, and THAT is the more important of the physical throwing attributes. If you want to question something, question his decision making-and it seems even Reid is working on THAT.

ChiefsCountry · 07-20-2013, 11:35 AM

Looking at the two quarterbacks on the market this spring. Both were hurt so I projected the stats out to 16 games for both.

Alex Smith
192 yards per game
3077 yards per game
23 touchdowns
8 ints
17/24
70%

Kevin Kolb
220 yards per game
3950 yards
22 touchdowns
9 ints
20/35
60%

We could have gotten similar production and without giving up 2 2nd second round picks that could have made the team even better. Can you imagine the defense with Arthur Brown as the MLB next to DJ? Or add Robert Woods to WR core?

Coogs · 07-20-2013, 11:45 AM

Maybe it's just me, but if Reid brings in Kolb, I would be far more worried about the state of the team/regime than I am about the cost of bringing in Smith.

Raiderhater · 07-20-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Maybe it's just me, but if Reid brings in Kolb, I would be far more worried about the state of the team/regime than I am about the cost of bringing in Smith.

The fact that Reid coached Kolb before and decided on Smith over him should be some sort of indicator.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

The fact that Reid coached Kolb before and decided on Smith over him should be some sort of indicator.

Reid don't know nuthing but Philly cheese steaks and chili dawgs.

Fat bastard was upset that Kolb wasn't some kinda cheese.

Hammock Parties · 07-20-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

The fact that Reid coached Kolb before and decided on Smith over him should be some sort of indicator.

So Alex Smith is better than one of the worst QBs in the NFL?

Phew, glad we dodged that bullet.

Raiderhater · 07-20-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

So Alex Smith is better than one of the worst QBs in the NFL?

Phew, glad we dodged that bullet.

That post was about Kolb, not Smith.

Hammock Parties · 07-20-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

That post was about Kolb, not Smith.

At the end of the day, I don't want either of them leading my franchise.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-20-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

At the end of the day, I don't want either of them leading my franchise.

Yeah, you want this guy:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...?sct=uk_t12_a2

Does rookie quarterback Geno Smith have a real shot to bring the Jets' turbulent Mark Sanchez era to an early end?

If by early you mean before the regular season arrives, it's looking more doubtful all the time. As training camp looms, this appears to be the second consecutive year Sanchez will be involved in a so-called quarterback competition that's really not all that competitive. Smith didn't wow anyone in the Jets' organization with his uneven offseason work, and he hasn't looked pro-ready and capable of assuming control of an NFL-style offense at this point. Maybe the perception changes once the preseason games start and his natural playmaking ability is on display, but Sanchez has a firm grip on the starting spot and seems to have the support of the team's veteran leadership, too.

Smith's struggles with some of the basic skills -- like snap count at the line of scrimmage and huddle presence -- has led New York to contemplate a secondary, change-of-pace role for their second-round pick. In shades of the failed Tebow experiment, a read-option package of plays are being considered for him, even though that's not his forte. He's a pocket passer, not a running threat. In short, none of the early signs spell an opening-day starting assignment for Smith, meaning the Sanchez era isn't quite over, even if Jets fans might wish otherwise.

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Raiderhater · 07-20-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

At the end of the day, I don't want either of them leading my franchise.

Yes, we know that.

07-19-2013, 06:59 AM
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07-20-2013, 11:34 AM	#276
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1415090	the list of great QB's is actually full of guys that don't have the prototypical rifle arm. Drew Brees throws deep alot and is accurate, but throws a rainbow. This is also why he throws lot of interceptions, IMO. Brady? not a big arm. Super accurate, peerless decision maker, but not a big arm. Peyton Manning has described his own arm as 'average' in at least one interview I've seen. I think when healthy he's above average as he doesn't get 'air' like, say, Brees does. Some of those Brees passes look like a tightly spiraled punt. You guys are reaching. You're putting WAY too much emphasis on over the top arm strength. Alex Smith has averagish NFL starting QB arm strength. It's plenty good enough to be effective. He is, by all accounts, accurate, and THAT is the more important of the physical throwing attributes. If you want to question something, question his decision making-and it seems even Reid is working on THAT.
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07-20-2013, 11:35 AM	#277
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1631248	Looking at the two quarterbacks on the market this spring. Both were hurt so I projected the stats out to 16 games for both. Alex Smith 192 yards per game 3077 yards per game 23 touchdowns 8 ints 17/24 70% Kevin Kolb 220 yards per game 3950 yards 22 touchdowns 9 ints 20/35 60% We could have gotten similar production and without giving up 2 2nd second round picks that could have made the team even better. Can you imagine the defense with Arthur Brown as the MLB next to DJ? Or add Robert Woods to WR core?
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07-20-2013, 11:45 AM	#278
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2305651	Maybe it's just me, but if Reid brings in Kolb, I would be far more worried about the state of the team/regime than I am about the cost of bringing in Smith.
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