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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

At least the Rams are taking risks, looking for the reward. Loading up the next young QB brings a lot more potential to your football than the latest league retread. Alex Smith is not Drew Brees, never shown that kind of potential so don't argue that crap. A good game for Alex Smith is 200 yards, 1 td, and 1 int. He is not a winning type QB, just a game manager.

Bradford was considered by most to be an elite QB in that draft and clearly the best player in it. This draft? Only those on CP thought that about Geno.

GordonGekko · 07-20-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Yet again, only complaints. No solutions. The irony is you state you are not paid millions to figure this stuff out, yet you complain about the decisions made by those who do. Your lack of a better option is simply a cop out. Complain about a problem, yet offer no fix. If we go 10-6 will you come on here and eat crow? Reid is every bit as successful as a John Fox who actually took Denver to the playoffs and won a game with TIM TEBOW as their starting QB. To assume we will be mediocre with Reid is again just crying and whining because the team did not get the HC we wanted even if we don't actually know who that guy is.

**** yeah if we go 10-6, I will eat crow. But only if that 10-6 is followed up with some success in the post season. Again, I am not the typical Chiefs fan that thanks 10-6 is enough, it ****ing isn't. Gotta have at least some success in the post season for me to think a season was somewhat successful. I'm not the same kind of fan who thinks 42+ years with no Superbowl, nevermind a Superbowl appearance, is ok. I'm part of the new breed of fan who wants a winner, and going 10-6 and then getting shit on in the wild card game is not a good season for me.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

At least the Rams are taking risks, looking for the reward. Loading up the next young QB brings a lot more potential to your football than the latest league retread. Alex Smith is not Drew Brees, never shown that kind of potential so don't argue that crap. A good game for Alex Smith is 200 yards, 1 td, and 1 int. He is not a winning type QB, just a game manager.

19-5-1 begs to differ with you. 6 come from behind victories, including over coming a 17 point deficit on the road in 2011 at Philly, begs to differ with you. Scoring not one, but two tds in the last 4 minutes of the Divisional Round playoffs against the Saints, begs to differ with you. Going ahead in the 3rd quarter of the Nfccg by throwing a strike between two defenders in the NFCCG, begs to differ with you. Driving your team down to get the game into over time with a Field goal, in the NFCCG, begs to differ with you.

I can play this game all day long. Alex Smith, is NOT an elite qb. He can not carry a team for an entire season like Aaron Rodgers. But to prop him up like him and Matt Cassel can be said in the same breathe and draw a slight comparison, is a ****ing joke. Alex Smith is a good starting qb if you don't have a better option. That's all he is, and I can accept that. There is no reason the Chiefs, with the roster they have built, cant win WITH Alex Smith. No, they can not win BECAUSE of Alex Smith, but Alex Smith has proven to be clutch, and Alex Smith has been getting better for the past three years. No reason to think he is all of a sudden going to become the shit bag he was before Harbaugh....that's just stupid talk.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Like I said before, I think alot of the "doubters" would be alot more confident in the Alex Smith move had we brought in a coach similar philosophically, to Harbaugh.

But we went and got Reid, which is awesome because I do in fact love his offensive system, but up to this point, Alex Smith hasn't excelled in a pass first Andy Reid type offense.

I hope these talks about him tweeking his system are true and he sticks to it.

When has he ever played in one of those?

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

At this point, 5 or more seasons of 10-6 don't excite me.

It excites no one, so lets see how this all plays out before passing judgement.

**Easy 6** · 07-20-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Lol, nope. Andy Reid's biggest problem was that his method of football is obsolete. Has nothing to do with his 'responsibilities', or whatever excuse you can come up with for him.

Realizing that its a pass first league is obsolete?

As for his last years in philly, go back and look at some of the threads from the philly noob invasion... that entire organization was at each others throats.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Lol, nope. Andy Reid's biggest problem was that his method of football is obsolete. Has nothing to do with his 'responsibilities', or whatever excuse you can come up with for him.

LOL, the more you talk, the less and less I know, that you know about football. His way of football is obsolute? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Do you even know who they brought in to help with the offense? They brought in the CREATOR, of the RAGE OF THE NFL right now, the Pistol/ Read Option offense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Bro, just stop. Lmao

Sandy Vagina · 07-20-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

I can agree with you on that one. It is usually the 49er trolls doing that. They are every bit as bad, you are correct on that one.

Not at all. He is completely exaggerating to implement a false concept. 49ers fans are only telling people that Alex is a good QB... not that he is "awesome."

So while one side IS saying Alex is terrible (overboard), the other side is merely saying he's good (not overboard).

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

19-5-1 begs to differ with you. 6 come from behind victories, including over coming a 17 point deficit on the road in 2011 at Philly, begs to differ with you. Scoring not one, but two tds in the last 4 minutes of the Divisional Round playoffs against the Saints, begs to differ with you. Going ahead in the 3rd quarter of the Nfccg by throwing a strike between two defenders in the NFCCG, begs to differ with you. Driving your team down to get the game into over time with a Field goal, in the NFCCG, begs to differ with you.

I can play this game all day long. Alex Smith, is NOT an elite qb. He can not carry a team for an entire season like Aaron Rodgers. But to prop him up like him and Matt Cassel can be said in the same breathe and draw a slight comparison, is a ****ing joke. Alex Smith is a good starting qb if you don't have a better option. That's all he is, and I can accept that. There is no reason the Chiefs, with the roster they have built, cant win WITH Alex Smith. No, they can not win BECAUSE of Alex Smith, but Alex Smith has proven to be clutch, and Alex Smith has been getting better for the past three years. No reason to think he is all of a sudden going to become the shit bag he was before Harbaugh....that's just stupid talk.

Again, thats not really relevant in terms of what he can do here under Andy Reid. He's going to be asked to do alot more, if history is any predictor of the future.

I hope his confidence from the last couple years carries over, because he's not going to be asked or told here to just take a sack and not be aggressive with the ball. If it doesn't, things won't be good.

GordonGekko · 07-20-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Bradford was considered by most to be an elite QB in that draft and clearly the best player in it. This draft? Only those on CP thought that about Geno.

Dude, you gotta take the risk. That is the point. The Rams took the risk. It is not always going to pan out, but you still have to keep trying. Look at Indy, Jeff George shat all over them yet they didn't hesitate to take another QB when the time was right (Manning). Chiefs don't do this, and have not done so in 40+ years. What also hasn't happened in 40+ years for the Chiefs?

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

When has he ever played in one of those?

When he's been in an offense thats had to rely on the pass, it hasn't been good.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 06:14 PM

I've been dancing the circular argument about Alex Smith since we traded for him. Here is my official final stance on the matter and I shall speak of it no more.

He gives us the best chance to win now. That is what the fanbase was screaming for using Pioli's win-loss record as a platform to preach that sermon. I like our staff, I'm uncertain as to how it will come out, however I remain optimistic.

Now. Shut the **** up about it until we play some games and see what happens. My allegiance is to the team, not any one player. If they **** up agai n (within a reasonable amount of time--3 years) then by all means fire up the biplanes and get the old banners out.

Right now nobody has been given a chance.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

**** yeah if we go 10-6, I will eat crow. But only if that 10-6 is followed up with some success in the post season. Again, I am not the typical Chiefs fan that thanks 10-6 is enough, it ****ing isn't. Gotta have at least some success in the post season for me to think a season was somewhat successful. I'm not the same kind of fan who thinks 42+ years with no Superbowl, nevermind a Superbowl appearance, is ok. I'm part of the new breed of fan who wants a winner, and going 10-6 and then getting shit on in the wild card game is not a good season for me.

I would question your fanhood if you didn't feel that way. The fact of the matter is had Hunt stuck with Pioli, Crennel, and Cassel this season I would be there with you. We went out and got the best proven HC available, a GM known for his ability to scout, and the best available QB out there. They are trying to win, let's see if it works. It has as much chance as any other option save getting Jim Harbaugh and Tom Brady.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

When has he ever played in one of those?

He hasn't. his entire career he has been handing off to Frank Gore.

Also, people aren't listening. Alex Smith himself even said in his interview on NFL network that his first job was to hand off to Charles, and that Andy Reid, was building the offense, around the TEAMS STRENGTHS. Which, if you follow the draft, that's exactly what they did. Shored up the offensive line, kept albert, got a fullback for Charles, got a back up for Charles, signed a tight end who is considered a very good to elite blocker.

Like I said. Black and White. Andy Reid did it there, so hes going to do it here. Hes not going to do that here. There will be a happy medium. Most of that will be because Alex Smith has no problem checking to a run if he sees its the best option. Boooooo, qbs shouldn't do that, they should wing it. Pfffffff. Bullshit, you have one of the best Rbs in the league. Getting the ball to him, is option ONE, if you are a chiefs fan, and want to win.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-20-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Lol, nope. Andy Reid's biggest problem was that his method of football is obsolete. Has nothing to do with his 'responsibilities', or whatever excuse you can come up with for him.

This is absolutely insane. Reid's offense is very progressive, and he has the smarts to realize the importance of the spread, the read option, and the pistol. So much so that he's hired 2 guys whose job is to specifically learn about it. On defense, he hired a guy who will run a pretty progressive Rex Ryan defense.

His methods aren't obsolete. He may not be the best of game managers, but he's a hell of a football mind and coach.

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ShortRoundChief Embrace the love Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Joplin Casino cash: $4067192	I've been dancing the circular argument about Alex Smith since we traded for him. Here is my official final stance on the matter and I shall speak of it no more. He gives us the best chance to win now. That is what the fanbase was screaming for using Pioli's win-loss record as a platform to preach that sermon. I like our staff, I'm uncertain as to how it will come out, however I remain optimistic. Now. Shut the ** up about it until we play some games and see what happens. My allegiance is to the team, not any one player. If they ** up agai n (within a reasonable amount of time--3 years) then by all means fire up the biplanes and get the old banners out. Right now nobody has been given a chance.
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