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Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Well... Reid is a West Coast Offense guy. But look at what he's doing.

He brought in Alex Smith and Chase Daniel and wasted no expense to get these guys. Both these guys are ideal for a more read option oriented offense. He brought in Chris Ault to coach the pistol and Brad Childress, whose only job is to consult on the spread.

I don't know how much of a spread or pistol he will run. But it seems like he's sending a pretty clear signal that he's planning to change his stripes, and it seems like he picked a QB to run his new offense (versus picking an offense that can be run by his new QB).

First off, Ault has only worked with the defense so far, IIRC.

I think you are getting confused with read option though. Either of those guys are going to get killed if they start attacking a defensive end and optioning off him.

I think they're going to incorporate more spread concepts into the WCO, which IMO, after all I've been reading is very interesting.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I definitely agree with this, all of these flashy schemes are eventually figured out and you have to get back to bread and butter football.

I think the spread is here to stay. It's too beneficial.

The Pistol, though, i'm not so sure.

He got railed for it, but I agree with Dane. If you could put Cam Newton in this offensive system, he'd break every NFL record.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:53 PM

Personally, I think we'll see a similar offense to what he ran with McNabb, with more spread concepts in the passing game.

Sorter has brought it up and he's the expert on it, but upon reading more about it, I think spread passing concepts and route design are the new age of football.

**Easy 6** · 07-20-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think the spread is here to stay. It's too beneficial.

The Pistol, though, i'm not so sure.

He got railed for it, but I agree with Dane. If you could put Cam Newton in this offensive system, he'd break every NFL record.

The spread will definitely have a longer shelf life than the wildcat, but things will eventually come full circle imo.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:55 PM

Teams are going faster and lighter on defense to combat the spread, especially in terms of LB's.

I think there is something to going heavy and running it at people in the future.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

It's irrelevant, because there's no way this team is winning more than 8 games.

Its completely relevant because if they do go 8-8 or better than my post will be spot on and you know it.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-20-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

First off, Ault has only worked with the defense so far, IIRC.

I think you are getting confused with read option though. Either of those guys are going to get killed if they start attacking a defensive end and optioning off him.

I think they're going to incorporate more spread concepts into the WCO, which IMO, after all I've been reading is very interesting.

Not if they run it in the pistol. The pistol has become a very innovative offense. They have designed bluffs and "arc blocks" to fend off teams that attack their defensive ends.

I don't know that anybody really knows what Ault has been doing. It's possible he's working with Reid or Chilly. It's very, very hard to believe that you hire Chili as an offensive spread consultant, and not have Ault consult on the offense. I think we will expect to see a much heavier dose of the pistol next year.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-20-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Teams are going faster and lighter on defense to combat the spread, especially in terms of LB's.

I think there is something to going heavy and running it at people in the future.

What you have to like about the pistol is that you run a power running scheme in a shotgun offense. There is unbelievable opportunity to take care of mismatches. The 49ers run a pistol offense and they have probably one of the most innovative running attacks in the game.

I also forgot... the fact that tight end and fullback became top priority? Another big clue that we're moving more toward a pistol.

**ChiefGator** · 07-20-2013, 07:03 PM

Not sure if it has been said in this thread yet (and I don't feel like wading through the same junk that crops up in every thread), but Alex's interview is now on kcchiefs.com

O.city · 07-20-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Not if they run it in the pistol. The pistol has become a very innovative offense. They have designed bluffs and "arc blocks" to fend off teams that attack their defensive ends.

I don't know that anybody really knows what Ault has been doing. It's possible he's working with Reid or Chilly. It's very, very hard to believe that you hire Chili as an offensive spread consultant, and not have Ault consult on the offense. I think we will expect to see a much heavier dose of the pistol next year.

I'm saying when you run the spread option, you normally leave someone unblocked and option off of him. Now, they run some exotic concepts in terms of blocking it, but ultimately, someone is coming unblocked and you make him wrong.

I just don't want my QB running the option in the NFL against NFL defenses, unless he's built like Cam or Kaep.

Now, the spread, I like and I hope we do insert alot of route combinations.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Lol I could give a **** about Geno. What I'm talking about is bigger than one player, or one draft. I'm talking about an overall philosophy that is on the scale of years and decades. This conservative, me too bullshit the Chiefs have been doing is not getting them anywhere. They need to learn to innovate, and take risks when they are acceptable. The problem however, I believe is systematic, and is traceable up to and including ownership and the fans. Until the days of going 9-7 and then taking a huge money shot in the face that a blue balled team has been storing up for weeks in a playoff game and ending the Chiefs' season are unacceptable, UNACCEPTABLE, then this 40+ year drought will continue.

It does appear like this philosophy stems from ownership, but most of the last 40 years were under Lamar. Clark is in charge now so we will see if it changes with a new GM and HC who value the QB position more than Pioli ever did.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What you have to like about the pistol is that you run a power running scheme in a shotgun offense. There is unbelievable opportunity to take care of mismatches. The 49ers run a pistol offense and they have probably one of the most innovative running attacks in the game.

I also forgot... the fact that tight end and fullback became top priority? Another big clue that we're moving more toward a pistol.

Harbaugh has some awesome blocking schemes. But I think we'll be more inclined to throw out of it than run at teams.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Personally, I think we'll see a similar offense to what he ran with McNabb, with more spread concepts in the passing game.

Sorter has brought it up and he's the expert on it, but upon reading more about it, I think spread passing concepts and route design are the new age of football.

This. I think the days of the spread being a gimmick are over. The rules in the NFL are geared for this sort of offense to succeed.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-20-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

In eight of Alex's 19 wins the last two years, he threw for less than 190 yards.

Why should I accept the idea that this can be replicated in Kansas City?

Even in 2010, when the Chiefs had a good team, we only won two games with our QB throwing for less than 190 yards.

And the last two seasons, it's only happened three times: against a Kyle Boller, Caleb Hanie and Tim Tebow.

Russell Wilson averaged 200 per last season

**DeezNutz** · 07-20-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Russell Wilson averaged 200 per last season

Cool. If Alex Smith were in his second season, I'd be encouraged.

Comparing rookies to vets is exactly what happened when Smith's brother arrived in '09.

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