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Old 07-19-2013, 06:59 AM  
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Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter" offense
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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:21 PM   #541
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At this point, 5 or more seasons of 10-6 don't excite me.
That's just plain stupid.

The NY Giants were 9-7 when they won the Super Bowl. The Cardinals were in the Super Bowl and barely lost with a 9-7 record. The Ravens were 10-6, as were the Packers.

All that matters is that you get into the playoffs on a hot streak and from there, anything can happen.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:23 PM   #542
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Alex Smith is becoming the True Fan litmus test.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:25 PM   #543
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That's just plain stupid.

The NY Giants were 9-7 when they won the Super Bowl. The Cardinals were in the Super Bowl and barely lost with a 9-7 record. The Ravens were 10-6, as were the Packers.

All that matters is that you get into the playoffs on a hot streak and from there, anything can happen.
Carl used to say something similar, and it was bullshit. "Getting into the tournament" is pointless unless you enter with a franchise QB.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:26 PM   #544
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Two of them, unless Dorsey fails at his job in year one.
That's not exactly true.

There was no QB worthy of a 1.1 this year so most likely, had they not acquired Alex Smith, they'd have given up a second round pick for a QB, if one was deemed worthy (and there wasn't).

So essentially, they gave up one pick for Smith. This season will determine whether or not it'll be a second or a third.

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It's very simple: I'm tired of taking someone's trash and saying that it's good enough for my team. Another organization, literally, looked at Alex Smith and said, "We have to improve."
What were the alternatives? Kevin Kolb wasn't available and he blows. There wasn't jackshit in the draft, unless a team was willing to take a huge risk with E.J. Manuel. I firmly believe that if Geno Smith wasn't taken by the Jets, he would have fallen to the third round or later.

The Chiefs absolutely needed a capable starting QB under center this season and that's what they got.

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But the Chiefs, predictably, don't seem to agree. **** that. I've seen it before, and I know how this bullshit ends. And so do you.
Actually, I don't. There have been plenty of "retread" QB's that have guided their teams to the Super Bowl and to a Super Bowl victory. There's not just "One Way" to get there.
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Russell Wilson averaged 200 per last season
He also averaged 12.4 YPC and completed 28 passes over 20 yards.

Alex Smith can't do these things.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #546
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Like I said before, I think alot of the "doubters" would be alot more confident in the Alex Smith move had we brought in a coach similar philosophically, to Harbaugh.


But we went and got Reid, which is awesome because I do in fact love his offensive system, but up to this point, Alex Smith hasn't excelled in a pass first Andy Reid type offense.
Andy Reid thinks he is a good QB for Reid's system. I would think he would be the best judge of what QB will work in his system.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #547
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Carl used to say something similar, and it was bullshit.
Then why have so many Wild Card teams won the Super Bowl recently?

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"Getting into the tournament" is pointless unless you enter with a franchise QB.
What matters most is that the team is jelling at the end of the season, going in "hot". And most guys don't prove they're a franchise QB until they've done some damage in the playoffs, so it's best to get there first.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:28 PM   #548
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I'd rather have Flynn for garbage than Smith for multiple second-rounders.
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Andy Reid thinks he is a good QB for Reid's system. I would think he would be the best judge of what QB will work in his system.
Yeah it doesn't matter who they get or what moves they make, their the right moves because the Chiefs made them and they aren't to be questioned.
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I'm a serious football fan and I have a serious football question, fellas. Why don't we have a top 5 QB? Serious football answer: Our front office is dumb. I mean...our front office is sooo stupid. I mean don't they know we need a super bowl quarterback to win the super bowl? Fuggin' idiots. How are we supposed to win the super bowl with out a super bowl quarterback? What is their serious football problem? Umm, answer: they didn't want a super bowl winning quarterback, despite the nomenclature that suggests that said QB will, obviously, win the super bowl.

Hey front office, wake up! Here is the plan:

1) Get super bowl quarterback.

B) Win super bowl.

4) I proved righterer.
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**** yeah if we go 10-6, I will eat crow. But only if that 10-6 is followed up with some success in the post season. Again, I am not the typical Chiefs fan that thanks 10-6 is enough, it ****ing isn't. Gotta have at least some success in the post season for me to think a season was somewhat successful. I'm not the same kind of fan who thinks 42+ years with no Superbowl, nevermind a Superbowl appearance, is ok. I'm part of the new breed of fan who wants a winner, and going 10-6 and then getting shit on in the wild card game is not a good season for me.
Not even after a 2-14 season? Really? Not very realistic.
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Then why have so many Wild Card teams won the Super Bowl recently?

What matters most is that the team is jelling at the end of the season, going in "hot". And most guys don't prove they're a franchise QB until they've done some damage in the playoffs, so it's best to get there first.
Because these teams have had legit QBs? E. Manning? Big Rape? Etc. And I don't believe that you need a natural progression in order to establish a QB.

Smith is not a franchise QB. Period. And this is all that really matters. He's a ****ing waste of time and draft picks.
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He also averaged 12.4 YPC and completed 28 passes over 20 yards.

Alex Smith can't do these things.
He couldn't do "those things" with a fatass Michael Crabtree and a TE in Vernon Davis. Before that, he didn't have shit for wideouts and the 49ers knew, taking a WR in the first round of 2012 (who sucked) and signing Manningham (who didn't play) and Grandpa Randy Moss.

You have absolutely no idea how he'll perform with Avery, Bowe, McCluster, Baldwin, Fasano, Charles and Kelce. You can speculate (which is what you've been doing all offseason) but you don't know.
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I'm saying when you run the spread option, you normally leave someone unblocked and option off of him. Now, they run some exotic concepts in terms of blocking it, but ultimately, someone is coming unblocked and you make him wrong.

I just don't want my QB running the option in the NFL against NFL defenses, unless he's built like Cam or Kaep.

Now, the spread, I like and I hope we do insert alot of route combinations.
It really depends on how you run it. The pistol is different from a typical read option because it allows for a north/south run option, whereas typical spread offenses tend to run east/west. There are also designed bluffs to take advantage of defenders who overpursue. For example, in a bluff, you check off the backside defensive end and run read option.

I can see your concern, but think the pistol has progressed far more than you give it credit for. Pete Carroll runs a pretty typical college offense, but Greg Roman/Jim Harbaugh are the ones who have really made it NFL ready. And I don't think you have to have a mobile QB to do it.
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Wait. What? Davis is somehow part of the problem but Baldwin presents possibilities?

You're just arguing to argue.
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