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Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Because Stanzi was a guy Pioli drafted, Palko wasn't. He was the only QB on the roster that wasn't a true Pioli guy. No one had a shot as long as Cassel was healthy.

There's a fine line between principle and stupid.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

For me, thats one of the ways I define someone who's "elite" and someone who isn't.

Manning (in his prime) could go anywhere and run the system. Same with Brady, to an extent. Obviously they couldn't be runners ala RGIII, but in terms of a WCO, etc I think they could.

True, but those guys are some of the best to ever play the position. They are very, very, very rare.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

True, but those guys are some of the best to ever play the position. They are very, very, very rare.

Thats why I think they're elite and there aren't very many "elite" guys in the NFL.

I think there are quite a few franchise guys you build around, but "elite"? Very few.

tredadda · 07-20-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

There's a fine line between principle and stupid.

Agree, but had you been in the prison that Haley was in would you have done much differently? It seemed like he was trying to get fired (which he succeeded in).

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-20-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm having a really hard time even fathoming your perspective right now.

Drafts happen before players play NFL games, so we're forced to ascertain "value" before the latter happens.

But what some teams see as value, many others don't, which is why so many teams have different rankings attached to every player.

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Barkley was value. I don't give a flying **** how he performs. These are separate issues, and you know this. What the hell is going on?

Since Barkley was seen at one point as a Top Ten draftee, it appears that the Eagles got tremendous "value" for him in the 4th round. What I'm stating is that there is no way to ascertain his value, today, because he's never played in the NFL.

Talking Heads state every year that "This team got tremendous value with this player or that player" when in reality, they're all talking out of their asses.

-King- · 07-20-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I know you didn't ask me, but I expect a team that will be in contention for either AFC West champions or AFC Wild Card all season long. 2010, the bulk of this team was in the playoffs. 2011 they damn near made it without Charles and Berry the whole season... with Palko at the helm for part of the season. Succop makes a FG against the Faid, and the 2011 team is in. 2012 could have been the season, but Pioli saddled the team with his boy Gus. IMO, that is the sole reason for the 2-14 debacle. Haley wanted him gone... instead Haley got gone. RAC wanted Orton. Pioli would have none of it. RAC tried to change his stripes and say he backed Gus, but the players that were here knew better. Winston went to bat for Gus. Nobody else did. And I'm not just talking the injury thing.

Enter new regime and Smith. The players are already saying the chemistry is great. Bowe and Charles are talking career years. Things are looking up.

I'm expecting playoff contention all year long. Maybe even a playoff run. Stranger things have happened.

This.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't make bets of any kind on CP. Because I just don't give a ****.

That said, I encourage you to point out all of my errors if any of my takes end up turning to shit. I'll own them.

Me neither. Let's ramp it up. Jesus, I couldn't offer you a more one sided bet if I was mother Theresa.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 08:39 PM

They got tremendous value in terms of draft position and where said player was slotted to be drafted.

I think there is a mixup on what type of "value" we are talking about.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Agree, but had you been in the prison that Haley was in would you have done much differently? It seemed like he was trying to get fired (which he succeeded in).

I'm not going to buy all that shit. I agree there was something to it, but it wasn't alcatraz. For ****s sake Haley was a virtual mad man on the sidelines.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-20-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm still trying to figure out why anybody thought that either Cousins or Stanzi was worth a shit going into that draft.

You'd have to ask them.

I thought that Cousins went where he was "supposed to go", but I also believe that he played better than a fourth round rookie QB last year in Washington.

Without him, they would have not made the playoffs.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 08:41 PM

I think Cousins is a career backup, who's good enough for a spot start when your guy gets injured.

I don't think he'd be much more as a full time starter.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-20-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think Cousins is a career backup, who's good enough for a spot start when your guy gets injured.

I don't think he'd be much more as a full time starter.

If they got a Frank Reich type player, more power to them

**DeezNutz** · 07-20-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Me neither. Let's ramp it up. Jesus, I couldn't offer you a more one sided bet if I was mother Theresa.

The problem is that you're offering something that I'm not the least bit interested in. Not in any capacity.

Sigs? Seriously?

I don't give a **** about that. You might as well try to offer casino cash.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 08:43 PM

I wish I had a money printer so I could print out casino cash. That would be awesome.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think Cousins is a career backup, who's good enough for a spot start when your guy gets injured.

I don't think he'd be much more as a full time starter.

I disagree but then here's the pickle. Only way to tell is to play him.

I'll be brutally honest I wish we picked him up over AS but it is what it is.

I might be wrong but I don't give a shit.

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