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Old 07-19-2013, 06:59 AM  
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Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter" offense
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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:09 AM   #781
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You're defending Alex Smith in a game that was literally won by his defense.

The final score was 13-8, 49ers.

That game is a PERFECT example of what happens to your Alex Smith led offense when the running game goes tits up.

You are brain dead, son.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:29 AM   #782
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well, that's a valid point, but you don't make it in college just being a nice guy, let alone the NFL.

AS had Mike Nolan his first 3 seasons & then Singletary the next three. I believe this had more to do with your perception of AS than his nice smile. Those two coaches were among the worst offensive minds I have ever seen at the NFL level.
I think every QB has to be a little bit of a dickhead to get by. Alex Smith strikes me as a guy who isn't that.

Even Peyton Manning. Seems like a nice guy, but is an absolute dick when his teammates screw up.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:30 AM   #783
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Avery and Wylie (and even Baldwin) all have 4.4 speed and should help, but the Edwards West Coast/Meyers read option spread/Ault pistol is really focused on the short and intermediary mismatches created by opening up a multitude of offensive options in those areas. This opens up the downfield pass, and you obviously need someone to be able to run it, but it isn't the focus of the offense.

It's why you'll see multi-back, multi-tight end sets, fullbacks splitting wide and a whole shit ton of Dwayne Bowe.

I think it's going to be pretty cool.
Absofreakinglutely. Andy loves him some big recievers, and with our TEs, and Bowe, I think even Baldwin can flourish in this offense. People talk about him being just being a TE and I can see him being almost a hybrid TE/WR type guy in this offense. I think it will be all about YACs in this O.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:39 AM   #784
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I've never seen "game manager" as a negative, and it goes further back than ~alsh.

Some of the top QBs to have played the game, including Bartt Starr and Troy Aikman, and Lenny Dawson were game managers.

Those guys, however, were franchise QBs.

Alex Smith is just mediocre, albeit efficient.
ya, the game has always been in the full offensive control of coaches. Paul Brown & Sid Gilman are part of the discussion for obvious reasons.. I chose to mention Walsh because his system is closely related to Reid's via Mike Holmgren. Reid got the Philly job after helping shape the offensive system at GB.

The thing about Smith is that he can throw on the run pretty good.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:40 AM   #785
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Absofreakinglutely. Andy loves him some big recievers, and with our TEs, and Bowe, I think even Baldwin can flourish in this offense. People talk about him being just being a TE and I can see him being almost a hybrid TE/WR type guy in this offense. I think it will be all about YACs in this O.
I don't think Baldwin will flourish in any offense. Sorry, I think the guy is garbage.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:03 PM   #786
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How would you define a successful season for the Chiefs in terms of overall record?
Under the circumstances, 2-14 and the worst team in the league, I understand realistically that they aren't going to make the playoffs unless they are very lucky. 8-8 would be a good first season under the new regime, followed by playoffs in the second year.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:07 PM   #787
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No, I was making fun of you, mainly, for being a guy that comes to a football message board and rarely, if ever, talks football.

Instead, just bitches.

But to each his own I guess.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I pretty much ONLY talk football here.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:11 PM   #788
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Halfway competent quarterback play and last year's team wins at least 5 games. So with as much hype as the moves this offseason have received, I have to say I'd be pretty disappointed with an 8-win effort. They face a weak schedule in a weak division. There's no reason they shouldn't at least be in the hunt for a wild card.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:18 PM   #789
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So we hire a guy, who by all reports, is the best HC we've had in KC since Marty, is an offensive guru etc, and we immediately want him to come in a change what he's done to make him so successful?

I have no idea why I would think a guy who's ran a system for 10 plus years would come in and implement a similar system. I'm crazy I guess.
I think it's going to be largely Andy Reid's scheme, but with wrinkles from Ault.

Love that Reid is adapting to the NFL today.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:20 PM   #790
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I wouldn't throw stones there pal, considering who you wanted this offseason.
I wanted Tyler Wilson, but I wasn't throwing a shit storm because we didn't take him 1st overall.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:26 PM   #791
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Halfway competent quarterback play and last year's team wins at least 5 games. So with as much hype as the moves this offseason have received, I have to say I'd be pretty disappointed with an 8-win effort. They face a weak schedule in a weak division. There's no reason they shouldn't at least be in the hunt for a wild card.
This team won seven games in 2011 without Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry and Tony Moeaki, all key contributors to their 2010 record of 10-6. They were mired in controversy, fired their head coach and grabbed a QB off the scrap heap to help them win two out of their three final game (and said QB signed as a backup the following season).

As I've said all offseason, 10 wins, IMO, is their floor. Anything else, barring major injury, will be a disappointment.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:43 PM   #792
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Does anyone factor in the fact that the 49ers had the most dominant run game in football with Alex Smith as a reason to why he never had to pass for many yards? Or does that just go out the window?

lol, your simpleness, amuses me.

NO. Davis was constantly double teamed last year. But, yes, even though with Alex Smith, Vernon Davis caught 5 tds, with Kaepernick. ONE!!!!!

All qbs take hits. How many times after a throw have you seen qbs get pushed down. This is irrelevant.

Off the top of your head, who was the second rounder drafted this year at 34, and who made the pick? Once the pick is made, its no longer valuable.


This is a good call. Also, people who question Alexs huddle demeanor. Lets forget about the Saints game. Although, alex smith had to do that twice, AND DID. Lets talk about the philly game that year on the road. Lets talk about the Detroit game on the road. Alex Smith played like ABSOLUTE crap for the majority of that game. But, in crunch time, he drove the team down and then threw the game winning td, on 4th down to win it. Im not sure where people get this Alex Smith doesn't have a huddle presence, and it seems like im propping Alex Smith up, and Im not. Hes not Aaron Rodgers, hes not Drew Brees, or Tom Brady, but when the game is on the line, he is pretty damn clutch. And he was in the NFCCG, only those who have forgotten what he did in that game, and are box score whores, forget.
Wait, so a QB who's running is going to take the same hits as a guy who stays in the pocket?

I dont' think thats irrelevant. But carry on.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:59 PM   #793
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Does anyone factor in the fact that the 49ers had the most dominant run game in football with Alex Smith as a reason to why he never had to pass for many yards? Or does that just go out the window?
Trent Green had the most dominant running game in football too.

He still managed to throw for 4K.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:05 PM   #794
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Trent Green had the most dominant running game in football too.

He still managed to throw for 4K.
And did so before the pass-happy, QB-dependent era we're in now.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:18 PM   #795
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You're defending Alex Smith in a game that was literally won by his defense.

The final score was 13-8, 49ers.

That game is a PERFECT example of what happens to your Alex Smith led offense when the running game goes tits up.

You are brain dead, son.
You talk about the Bengals, who were playing at home, like they didn't make the Playoffs. You are also talking about what week 3 of the season? A win, is a win, is a win. I guess because Aaron Rodgers looked like shit when he lost to the Chiefs during their 15-1 season, hes garbage.......

Do you think before you post? Its rhetorical by the way.
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