Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter offense"

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Yuck.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

I am not talking about bombs.

We need a passing offense that can effectively complete passes in the 15-35 yard range. Green was very good at that range, even though his deep ball wasn't very good.

Alex Smith isn't. And it's going to cost us.

I also don't think Alex Smith is good in the red zone. If you take a look, he threw the fewest TD passes in the entire NFL in 2011 when his team was in the red zone. His completion percentage and, of course, yardage, was also extremely low.

When the opposing team knows your QB can't put the ball in the end zone, bad things happen to your offense. That's just common sense.

What do those red zone stats for last year look like?

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Yuck.

Why yuck?

if this season blows up in their face, which it very well could and we have a losing record, there is a good chance this team drafts any one of those guys you just "yucked" at

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

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That is the best pass I've seen him make, though. If he would make that throw all the time, he might actually be an above-average QB. This is what Andy Reid is working on, I guess ... we'll see if it works.

That was a third down play with less than 30 ticks left off the clock, when a FG does San Francisco no good. As it is, I don't think you see that throw in normal situations.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

I am not talking about bombs.

We need a passing offense that can effectively complete passes in the 15-35 yard range. Green was very good at that range, even though his deep ball wasn't very good.

Alex Smith isn't. And it's going to cost us.

I also don't think Alex Smith is good in the red zone. If you take a look, he threw the fewest TD passes in the entire NFL in 2011 when his team was in the red zone. His completion percentage and, of course, yardage, was also extremely low.

When the opposing team knows your QB can't put the ball in the end zone, bad things happen to your offense. That's just common sense.

Might be true...but Colin was worse than him in 2012..not a knock on Colin...but maybe it was a function of something greater than the QB? By the way, why would you pick a single year that wasn't the most recent year unless you wanted people to pick you apart for it?

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

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That is the best pass I've seen him make, though. If he would make that throw all the time, he might actually be an above-average QB. This is what Andy Reid is working on, I guess ... we'll see if it works.

That was a third down play with less than 30 ticks left off the clock, when a FG does San Francisco no good. As it is, I don't think you see that throw in normal situations.

I think I'm too rookie to post links. So I quote it so that people can see.

I'm not going to argue if he makes that throw in normal circumstances. I think he does occasionally, but not often. He does however do it when his back is against the wall. I think with this offense, that is good enough to make the play-offs. We will see.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

Might be true...but Colin was worse than him in 2012..not a knock on Colin...but maybe it was a function of something greater than the QB? By the way, why would you pick a single year that wasn't the most recent year unless you wanted people to pick you apart for it?

2011 paints the most accurate and complete picture of Alex Smith.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

2011 paints the most accurate and complete picture of Alex Smith.

Please elaborate your reasoning.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

Please elaborate your reasoning.

He played a full season.

Extrapolating based on 8 games in 2012 is inaccurate data.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

I think I'm too rookie to post links. So I quote it so that people can see.

I'm not going to argue if he makes that throw in normal circumstances. I think he does occasionally, but not often. He does however do it when his back is against the wall. I think with this offense, that is good enough to make the play-offs. We will see.

Sure, it might be/probably is. But good enough to make the playoffs isn't good enough. I don't care or really have any interest in "good enough to make the playoffs."

If you're not willing to make that throw all the time, playoff success and deep wins and runs are hard to accomplish.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

2011 paints the most accurate and complete picture of Alex Smith.

First year under a new head coach and new system provides the most accurate data? Bullshit. Post the 2012 stats.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Why yuck?

if this season blows up in their face, which it very well could and we have a losing record, there is a good chance this team drafts any one of those guys you just "yucked" at

Because none of those guys have distinguished themselves as an NFL caliber starting QB.

Bridgewater has had one good season against mediocre competition and he's on the south side of 200 lbs.

Murray is completely erratic who performs at his worst in the bigger games. He's also shorter than what you want in a starting NFL QB. He's a fifth year senior in 2013 and if he was as good as he's supposed to be, he would have been in this past draft as the talent level supposedly wasn't as high as it usually is, but he decided to stay and enter the 2014 draft. That should tell you a lot about the 2014 draft class right there.

McCarron is average at best supported by a legit NFL offensive line and a NFL talent level defense.

David Fales is a poor man's version of Barkley. He's got a nice arm, but absolutely zero mobility. On the season (2012) he had 42 rushing attempts for -139 yards.

None of these guys are even close to being in the same class as Geno or Barkley or even Manuel in terms of a pro prospect. Bridgewater is probably closest, but his numbers come against sub-par competition and he's scrawny as hell.

If the Chiefs didn't draft Geno or Barkley for Reid's west coast system, you sure as shit aren't going to see one of these guys next year.

The desire from some fans for this team drafting any QB in the first round no matter who the hell it is is utterly amazing.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

First year under a new head coach and new system provides the most accurate data? Bullshit. Post the 2012 stats.

Considering this is his first year under a new hc and oc, id say 11 is the most relevant anyway.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Because none of those guys have distinguished themselves as an NFL caliber starting QB.

Bridgewater has had one good season against mediocre competition and he's on the south side of 200 lbs.

Murray is completely erratic who performs at his worst in the bigger games. He's also shorter than what you want in a starting NFL QB. He's a fifth year senior in 2013 and if he was as good as he's supposed to be, he would have been in this past draft as the talent level supposedly wasn't as high as it usually is, but he decided to stay and enter the 2014 draft. That should tell you a lot about the 2014 draft class right there.

McCarron is average at best supported by a legit NFL offensive line and a NFL talent level defense.

David Fales is a poor man's version of Barkley. He's got a nice arm, but absolutely zero mobility. On the season (2012) he had 42 rushing attempts for -139 yards.

None of these guys are even close to being in the same class as Geno or Barkley or even Manuel in terms of a pro prospect. Bridgewater is probably closest, but his numbers come against sub-par competition and he's scrawny as hell.

If the Chiefs didn't draft Geno or Barkley for Reid's west coast system, you sure as shit aren't going to see one of these guys next year.

The desire from some fans for this team drafting any QB in the first round no matter who the hell it is is utterly amazing.

I keep saying logan thomas.and nobody listens.

Aaron murray doesn't shit himself in big games either not to mention he plays bama pretty damn well

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

Considering this is his first year under a new hc and oc, id say 11 is the most relevant anyway.

But are we looking at just this year, or are we interested in seeing if he is capable of growing? Or, with two QBs to look at last year in that system, if maybe it was the system (or coaching) itself?

I personally think '12 is well worth a look.