Chiefs Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter offense" - Page 83

Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

ChiefsCountry · 07-23-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Are you seriously too obtuse to realize I am not talking about those players?

Tyson Jackson, Dontari Poe and Mike DeVito are all average as **** non game-changers, and there is absolutely no depth.

In this league you need to have at least one difference maker on the defensive line to compete with the good teams.

We have jack at D-line. I'm actually being generous stating we could be a middle of the pack D. Yet some of you insist on harboring delusions of grandeur.

Its a shame we need quarterback again because Stephon Tuitt from Notre Dame would be the beast we need on the DL.

MagicHef · 07-24-2013, 12:19 AM

Everyone that's gone was the reason they were bad, and everyone that's still here will be better than they were. You know, schemes.

Chris Meck · 07-24-2013, 12:26 AM

I don't think we know what Dontari Poe is. Tyson Jackson has shown himself to be a decent run stopper in Romeo's 3-4, but this system will be totally different. He's physically strong enough to at least be a bull-rush presence. Also, there is Powe, who I think showed himself to be at least a decent rotational player.

And in this type of aggressive defense, a guy like Bailey may well thrive as well.

You have decided, in advance, that no player will progress, that no drafted players will be any good, and that the QB will Cassel the joint up. Scheme changes mean nothing to you, quality of coaching means nothing to you, all of it is doomed to fail 100 percent because you don't like Alex Smith.

I don't even understand what you get out of any of this. If I was that upset about the direction of the team I think I'd just quit watching and find something else to do. It's kind of pathetic, really.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-24-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Are you seriously too obtuse to realize I am not talking about those players?

Tyson Jackson, Dontari Poe and Mike DeVito are all average as **** non game-changers, and there is absolutely no depth.

In this league you need to have at least one difference maker on the defensive line to compete with the good teams.

We have jack at D-line. I'm actually being generous stating we could be a middle of the pack D. Yet some of you insist on harboring delusions of grandeur.

First of all, this talentless defensive line is about the same quality as the defense that ranked #12 just 2 years ago. Secondly, your obsession with the defensive line shows how little you know about Rex Ryan's defense. The Chiefs' have easily one of the best pass rushing OLB combos of any 3-4 defense. I would gladly take Houston-DeVito-Jackson-Hali over Pace-Ellis-Douglas-Thomas any day of the week, and that was the Jets' DE/OLB combos the year that defense ranked #1. Pouha is a reasonably good NT, but he wasn't anything close to elite. What we saw of Poe last year, there's no reason to believe he can't approach Pouha level play.

It's not like these D-linemen are bad. All the Ryan defense demands of these guys is versatility, and they all have it. Being able to pass rush is a nice bonus, but it's not like Ngata and Justin Bannon have been any kind of sack monsters in Baltimore. Tyson Jackson was always branded as a 3-4/4-3 hybrid, DeVito can play almost every position on the line, and Poe was scouted as a guy who could eventually do the same. Behind them, Powe is a decent enough Nose and maybe the Chiefs have something in Bailey. They could easily have a solid but unspectacular line, which is fine given the elite talent they have off the edges.

Finally, nobody has delusions that the Chiefs are a #1 defense. I said they can MAYBE crack the top 10 if Sutton coaches them well. Your idea that it is a reach to call them middle of the pack is just laughable. If the Chiefs can be top 15 behind Romeo's ultra-conservative defense, they can be top 15 behind Sutton's aggressive defense. Easily.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-24-2013, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Everyone that's gone was the reason they were bad, and everyone that's still here will be better than they were. You know, schemes.

Piss off, troll

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-24-2013, 04:44 AM

I would like to give Poe another season to see what he can do.

**007** · 07-24-2013, 05:06 AM

I haven't looked at this thread since the day it was posted. I'm afraid to even read what the hell has been going on here the last few days.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-24-2013, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I haven't looked at this thread since the day it was posted. I'm afraid to even read what the hell has been going on here the last few days.

In the beginning, there is some great football discussion that has been sorely missed around these parts, then it turned into a discussion of a Casselesque nature for a bit. But all in all, not a bad read if you ask me.

**007** · 07-24-2013, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledFan

I was at training camp yesterday when all the rookies and coaches got there. Few other fans were there talkin up Smith and still saying Cassel just didn't get a good enough chance and he was bad just because our offensive line sucked.

Oh good lord. This fanbase just never fails to disappoint.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-24-2013, 05:29 AM

InChiefsHeaven · 07-24-2013, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Awesome!

**Mav** · 07-24-2013, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Sorry, but Tyson Jackson and Mike DeVito are pedestrian as ****.

Dontari Poe is ????????

At best it's an average group, and the depth doesn't exist.

The Depth is probably going to be the strength of this d line actually. And, again, DeVito, far more than talent, is going to bring relentlessness, and work ethic, and vet leadership to a unit that really doesn't have any.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What I'm interested to see is if Sutton knows the Ryan scheme, or if he's just a copycat. If he knows the scheme, there's some good pieces here. Keep in mind that the Jets had HORRENDOUS pass rushers, which is a critical element to that scheme because they put so much pressure that they have to get to the QB quickly.

I think Poe is much further along than people give him credit for, and DeVito is actually a nice fit for the D (while people complain that he can't rush the passer, in the Ryan scheme, he's valuable because he can play multiple positions across the line in both a 3-4 AND a 4-3. We're still a few pieces away on defense and dangerously thin on the line. But I think we could maybe crack the top 10 on the very big "if" that Sutton actually knows this defense.

What people don't know about the jets. Despite them having a very Chiefs like offense last year, and losing Revis for the year, they still finished 8th in total defense. And as you pointed out, they don't have pass rushers that the Chiefs do.....

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

People are acting like a completely new defensive scheme is gonna be picked up overnight.

Pump your breaks, saccopoo.

That 49ers team you LOVVVVVVE to reference in 2011 having the number two defense.........they had less time to learn a new scheme than the Chiefs do. So, why not? EXCUSE MAKER.

duncan_idaho · 07-24-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Its a shame we need quarterback again because Stephon Tuitt from Notre Dame would be the beast we need on the DL.

"At No. 17, some thought the Chiefs might take [insert QB name, placeholder: Aaron Murray] and try to address their QB spot for the future, but they address their defensive line with Stephon Tuitt from Notre Dame instead. Mike Mayock, what do you think?"

'GREAT value pick! I mean, great. Teddy Bridgewater was the only QB I could bang the table for in this draft, and we saw him go first overall to the Jaguars. There was some talk about the Chiefs trying to move up to that pick, but they just couldn't quite get there. So instead of reaching for a QB who doesn't have 1st round value, they make a smart value pick with Tuit...'

duncan_idaho · 07-24-2013, 07:10 AM

Also, does anybody else hear what some are say about DeVito and have flashbacks to Nate Hobgood-Chittick?

"He's smart and tries really hard all the time, and that will rub off on his teammates."

**Rausch** · 07-24-2013, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

I would like to give Powe another season to see what he can do.

FYP...

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