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Old 07-23-2013, 07:24 PM  
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Go on record: What will make the Reid regime a success?
So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:29 PM   #151
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I don't think Andy Reid will be the Chiefs coach for ten years if he doesn't consistently win in the playoffs. I'm not even sure if he'd be the Chiefs coach after his contract expires in five years if he only has a single playoff win.
Which would be why I would consider that a C- coaching tenure.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:29 PM   #152
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So, the Chiefs winning percentage isn't .314 over the course of the past 15 years? The Chiefs did win a playoff game in the past 20?

Do you even realize that you're expecting that arguably the worst team in entire NFL over the past 15 years to win a Super Bowl in the next five?
These guys are inheriting 6 probowlers and a slew of young talent across the board.

Why shouldn't we expect them to be in a superbowl within the next 5 years?

What superbowl team coaches took longer than that to get to the superbowl?
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:31 PM   #153
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Which would be why I would consider that a C- coaching tenure.
Exactly.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:34 PM   #154
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Which would be why I would consider that a C- coaching tenure.
And yet he'd be one of only three head coaches to win a playoff game for the Chiefs in 50+ years.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:36 PM   #155
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So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?
Why should it be anything less than a SB WIN?
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:39 PM   #156
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3. Drafting well every year so that the team has depth and talent.
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These guys are inheriting 6 probowlers and a slew of young talent across the board.

Why shouldn't we expect them to be in a superbowl within the next 5 years?
Well, number one is that we have yet to see this team perform on the field. Why would anyone expect a Super Bowl appearance without seeing the product itself?

I think there's enough talent and coaching on this squad to realistically predict a playoff win in the next few years. But Super Bowls require an incredible amount of luck, not only from your team, but from the misfortune of others.

A consistent contender is more realistic, IMO, than being a lock for a Super Bowl.

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What superbowl team coaches took longer than that to get to the superbowl?
I have absolutely no idea.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:41 PM   #158
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Why should it be anything less than a SB WIN?
Well , the simple answer to this is that there are varying levels of happiness.

If we just won a playoff game...I'd be happy.

If we made it to the superbowl, thats a higher level of happiness

If we got a ring, obviously that is much , much higher level of orgasm.

If we were dynasty talk and multiple deep playoff runs, with at least 2 rings...then to me thats the highest I could dream of.

So I mean I would personally be happy with a playoff win out of this hire, because its better than anyt5hing we have had in 20 years.
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I'd be thrilled if this team makes it to the AFC Championship...I wouldn't call winning a wildcard game as a success unless it happens this year.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:00 PM   #160
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I agree with this, but most of the rest of the board certainly does not.

Guys want to have it both ways - "this team is the most talented in the division, 3rd most talented in AFC" etc. - yet people are saying that a SINGLE playoff win in the 5-10 years he'll likely be here is "success"?

I don't give a **** what happened in the past, because it can't be changed.

But they've made "win-now" moves, so I expect them to win right ****ing now. Playoffs in 2013. A win or two in 2014. And at least a SB appearance or win by the time Andy leaves KC.

The rest of you (not you, DJ) can talk out of both sides of your mouth and enjoy mediocrity, I'm going to demand better.
Hey damn it. I said SB in 3.

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People have said that a single playoff win in the 5-10 years AR will likely be here is considered success.

A single playoff win in 5-10 years does not equal a team that has a "very good chance" at appearing in a Super Bowl.
Not this ****ing guy.

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Why should it be anything less than a SB WIN?
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Well, number one is that we have yet to see this team perform on the field. Why would anyone expect a Super Bowl appearance without seeing the product itself?

I think there's enough talent and coaching on this squad to realistically predict a playoff win in the next few years. But Super Bowls require an incredible amount of luck, not only from your team, but from the misfortune of others.

A consistent contender is more realistic, IMO, than being a lock for a Super Bowl.



I have absolutely no idea.
That's not the question. The question is what will make the Reid regime a success?
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:07 PM   #161
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That's not the question. The question is what will make the Reid regime a success?
Crafting this team into a consistent playoff winner.

If the Chiefs are in the playoffs every year or nearly every year (like the good teams are), it dramatically increases their chances of a Super Bowl appearance.
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And yet he'd be one of only three head coaches to win a playoff game for the Chiefs in 50+ years.
So? That alone makes it a success?

Who cares about the past. The future is all that matters.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:28 PM   #163
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[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;9832003]Well, number one is that we have yet to see this team perform on the field. Why would anyone expect a Super Bowl appearance without seeing the product itself?

I think there's enough talent and coaching on this squad to realistically predict a playoff win in the next few years. But Super Bowls require an incredible amount of luck, not only from your team, but from the misfortune of others.

A consistent contender is more realistic, IMO, than being a lock for a Super Bowl.



I agree with this , actually I think Cassel ,Crennel and Pioli being replaced with Reid ,Smith and Dorsey gives this team a chance this year to make a playoff run. In 2014 we will have a LOT of players in their prime that are probowl level players and we should really make some noise for the foreseeable future. Windows don't close if you know how to draft and Dorsey / Reid have a good history for that.

I get excited every year at this time but I have a little gut feeling this may be the transition year that will bring us back to having a fun team to watch.
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Consistently put the Chiefs in a position to be a series contender for a SB championship. Obviously, SB is the main goal.

But like has been said in this thread, we're potentially the worst organization not only in the NFL, but in professional sports the last half decade or so.

If he can get them into a position where they're beating good teams, winning playoff games, and competing for championships, it's a success.
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So? That alone makes it a success?

Who cares about the past. The future is all that matters.
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It illustrates the incompetence of this franchise that only two head coaches have won playoff games in 50 years.
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