Chiefs Go on record: What will make the Reid regime a success? - Page 14

**Buehler445** · 07-23-2013, 07:24 PM

So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?

**SAUTO** · 07-24-2013, 07:53 PM

It wasn't the losing season. He had lost control
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**DeezNutz** · 07-24-2013, 07:54 PM

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But that's just silly. One losing season in ten is a reason to leave town?

Considering the franchise's dismal record since, I'd say his departure was unwarranted and premature.

It wasn't just a losing season, it was a total and complete embarrassment because of his loss of control. Marty was never going to assemble a better team than he had in '97 or '95, and he proved that he just wasn't going to get it done.

The problem is that Carl needed to be replaced along with Marty. They had a good run together, but both lived out their utility.

Andy Reid, like so many coaches, is going to be defined by his choice in QBs. Alex Smith can be the starting point, but Reid must acquire a franchise QB, or he'll be yet another one of KC's dismal failures.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 07:54 PM

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After 10 years with no SB, Marty's tenure, while not ultimate failure, was ultimately unsuccessful.

While the Chiefs failed to win a Super Bowl during his tenure, there are very few people that don't think of his time in KC fondly.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 07:58 PM

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It wasn't just a losing season, it was a total and complete embarrassment because of his loss of control.

If Marty didn't have any success following the 1998 season, I'd tend to agree. But since he coached up some decent San Diego teams, I' tend to believe his time in KC was prematurely cut short.

**SAUTO** · 07-24-2013, 08:00 PM

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If Marty didn't have any success following the 1998 season, I'd tend to agree. But since he coached up some decent San Diego teams, I' tend to believe his time in KC was prematurely cut short.

Different players. Once you lose control its almost impossible to get it back.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 08:02 PM

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It wasn't the losing season. He had lost control
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I don't buy that at all.

After that Monday game, the Chiefs lost to the Chargers by one, beat the Cards, lost in Denver by four, beat the Cowboys, lost to the Giants and beat the Raiders in Oakland,

Had he truly lost control, the Chiefs would have been winless or close to winless.

That was not the case.

**SAUTO** · 07-24-2013, 08:06 PM

We are going to have to agree to disagree here buddy
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keg in kc · 07-24-2013, 08:11 PM

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While the Chiefs failed to win a Super Bowl during his tenure, there are very few people that don't think of his time in KC fondly.

Especially the teams that were fortunate enough to play them in the postseason.

**DeezNutz** · 07-24-2013, 08:12 PM

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If Marty didn't have any success following the 1998 season, I'd tend to agree. But since he coached up some decent San Diego teams, I' tend to believe his time in KC was prematurely cut short.

Was he ever going to bring in a legit QB? His most successful years in SD coincided with Brees and Rivers (the latter had a pretty solid rookie season in '06 when the Chargers won the division and lost on the freak fumble in the playoffs).

milkman · 07-24-2013, 08:13 PM

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While the Chiefs failed to win a Super Bowl during his tenure, there are very few people that don't think of his time in KC fondly.

There were a lot of good years and moments, so I understand the fond memories.

But the bottom line still remains that he was ultimately unsuccessful in achieving the goal.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 08:20 PM

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Was he ever going to bring in a legit QB? His most successful years in SD coincided with Brees and Rivers (the latter had a pretty solid rookie season in '06 when the Chargers won the division and lost on the freak fumble in the playoffs).

That's a question that will never be answered.

**DeezNutz** · 07-24-2013, 08:22 PM

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That's a question that will never be answered.

With Carl, I'm pretty confident we know the answer. He's on record as saying that he preferred to bring in vets rather than gamble on rookies.

Loser philosophy, which we unfortunately have to deal with a bit longer.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-24-2013, 08:33 PM

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With Carl, I'm pretty confident we know the answer. He's on record as saying that he preferred to bring in vets rather than gamble on rookies.

Loser philosophy, which we unfortunately have to deal with a bit longer.

Considering they chose Trent Green over Drew Brees, I'm sure you're right.

**MahiMike** · 07-24-2013, 08:35 PM

10 wins a year for 10 years

O.city · 07-24-2013, 08:35 PM

Knowing how good those Marty teams actually were, the fact they couldn't get over the hump and win the whole thing was a letdown.

But, I dont' think anyone would argue that if we get back to the point where seasons like THAT are letdowns, we'll all be pretty happy.

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