Chiefs Alex Smith is "the best in the league"

**Rausch** · 07-31-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

If he was elite, we'd win the West.

If he was elite he wouldn't have been benched...

**Mav** · 07-31-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If he was elite he wouldn't have been benched...

Think about what you said. Now, go back, and slap yourself. There aren't a whole lot of qbs right now, in the NFL that you would say you would take today over Kaepernick. And I hate the guys guts. Hes that good though.

Today, over Kaepernick, I would take Andrew Luck, and Aaron Rodgers. That's it. Not Brees, hes old, not Brady, not Manning. Kaepernick is that special as a qb, and his future is that bright.

Pablo · 07-31-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Think about what you said. Now, go back, and slap yourself. There aren't a whole lot of qbs right now, in the NFL that you would say you would take today over Kaepernick. And I hate the guys guts. Hes that good though.

Today, over Kaepernick, I would take Andrew Luck, and Aaron Rodgers. That's it. Not Brees, hes old, not Brady, not Manning. Kaepernick is that special as a qb, and his future is that bright.

. I agree the dude has a bright future and all of that; but let's see if he can do it two seasons in a row before throwing him ahead of Brees and Brady.

Jesus.

**Mav** · 07-31-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

. I agree the dude has a bright future and all of that; but let's see if he can do it two seasons in a row before throwing him ahead of Brees and Brady.

Jesus.

Dude, im a 49ers fan, I HATE COLIN Kaepernick. There are just some things that he does on a football field, that others cant do. The only qb I would take today, if I had to win ONE game over him, would be Aaron Rodgers. Along with being the most physically gifted qb in football, he competes harder than anyone ive ever seen in my life. He never quits. I agree, he has to prove hes not a fluke, but his work ethic, and physical skills are ridiculous.

You are forcing me to defend a guy I cant stand.........I hate you for this.

9er guy · 08-02-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Dude, im a 49ers fan, I HATE COLIN Kaepernick.

WoW...........so who do you like?

**Rausch** · 07-31-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Think about what you said. Now, go back, and slap yourself. There aren't a whole lot of qbs right now, in the NFL that you would say you would take today over Kaepernick.

Payed-a-Ton
Eli
Rodgers
Brees
Stafford
Brady
Luck
RGIII
Flacco
Ben Ruthlessrapist
Ryan.

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Not Brees, hes old, not Brady, not Manning.

You would not prefer 3 HOF QB's that are currently playing over a QB who has started less than 16 games in the NFL?

I think I'm done here.

Good day sir...

**Mav** · 07-31-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Payed-a-Ton
Eli
Rodgers
Brees
Stafford
Brady
Luck
RGIII
Flacco
Ben Ruthlessrapist
Ryan.

You would not prefer 3 HOF QB's that are currently playing over a QB who has started less than 16 games in the NFL?

I think I'm done here.

Good day sir...

you would take peyton, a consistent PLAYOFF FAILURE, over Kaepernick who showed the ability to make mistakes in playoff games, and to get his team back into no matter what? I agree, the sample size is small, and you are going to take matt ryan, who has ONE playoff win which by the way, is LESS than Kaepernick in 10 nfl starts over him? You sure? Stafford? Pfff, and you are done? I think we should just let this conversation go shall we?

**Rausch** · 07-31-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

you would take peyton, a consistent PLAYOFF FAILURE, over Kaepernick who showed the ability to make mistakes in playoff games, and to get his team back into no matter what? I agree, the sample size is small, and you are going to take matt ryan, who has ONE playoff win which by the way, is LESS than Kaepernick in 10 nfl starts over him? You sure? Stafford? Pfff, and you are done? I think we should just let this conversation go shall we?

First of all KC will never have a QB under 28 years old. It's like they avoid it at all costs.

**Mav** · 07-31-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

First of all KC will never have a QB under 28 years old. It's like they avoid it at all costs.

fair point......

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-31-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Payed-a-Ton
Eli
Rodgers
Brees
Stafford
Brady
Luck
RGIII
Flacco
Ben Ruthlessrapist
Ryan.

You would not prefer 3 HOF QB's that are currently playing over a QB who has started less than 16 games in the NFL?

I think I'm done here.

Good day sir...

Good lord, Dude. Stafford? The guy that's 1-23 against teams with a .500 record or greater? Ryan, the perennial playoff loser? Old Ben? Peyton?

Kaepernick is a freak of nature. The dude was working out with speed coaches the week after his Super Bowl loss. He can run for a 50 yard TD, untouched, or throw for a 50 yard TD. He took his team to the Super Bowl with less than a dozen starts and almost won it.

Barring catastrophic injury, the guy will be an Elite QB for the next decade.

Pablo · 07-31-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If he was elite he wouldn't have been benched...

C'mon. All of the great ones get sat for one game for a concussion and then accordingly lose their job to a 2nd year gimmick QB.

And, all of the great ones can be had for a 2nd rounder and a conditional 2nd/3rd.

Chiefs coaches are just as ****ing stupid as the fanbase it appears.

**Mav** · 07-31-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

C'mon. All of the great ones get sat for one game for a concussion and then accordingly lose their job to a 2nd year gimmick QB.

And, all of the great ones can be had for a 2nd rounder and a conditional 2nd/3rd.

Chiefs coaches are just as ****ing stupid as the fanbase it appears.

That gimmick, is becoming the trend of the league......Its not a gimmick. Its called evolution.

FlaChief58 · 07-31-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

That gimmick, is becoming the trend of the league......Its not a gimmick. Its called evolution.

That's what they said about the wildcat a few years ago....

Pablo · 07-31-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

That gimmick, is becoming the trend of the league......Its not a gimmick. Its called evolution.

Trends come and go. A QB being able to stand in the pocket and make multiple reads won't. If it's evolution then why did you state you'd take two pocket passers ahead of the guy?

Dual threats are great. I wouldn't bitch for one second if we had a Kaep or Cam Newton type on our team. I'd love it. I'd still take a pure pocket passer like Rodgers or Luck because while they can make plays with their legs; they earn their money in the pocket. And they don't stand as much of a chance in having their career cut short.

We'll see how long this evolution lasts. Smart money is on Kaep cutting down his running plays greatly every year he stays in the league. Or he'll be oft injured. He has the skill to be a great pocket passer if he doesn't get his legs cut out from under him too many times and have to retire early. And what good is that?

**Mav** · 07-31-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

Trends come and go. A QB being able to stand in the pocket and make multiple reads won't. If it's evolution then why did you state you'd take two pocket passers ahead of the guy?

Dual threats are great. I wouldn't bitch for one second if we had a Kaep or Cam Newton type on our team. I'd love it. I'd still take a pure pocket passer like Rodgers or Luck because while they can make plays with their legs; they earn their money in the pocket. And they don't stand as much of a chance in having their career cut short.

We'll see how long this evolution lasts. Smart money is on Kaep cutting down his running plays greatly every year he stays in the league. Or he'll be oft injured. And what good is that?

Whoooooaaaaaaaa.

Aaron Rodgers, and Andrew Luck, aren't pocket passers. Matter of fact, some of their best work, is done outside the pocket. People see Kaep like hes Mike Vick, or like RG3. hes not at all. Go back and look at the Falcons, and Ravens game. They made him a pocket passer, and he killed them for it.

The evolution is that the pure pocket passers, are dying. The more mobile qbs, are becoming the thing in the NFL. Yes, Tom brady is a pocket passer, but the system he is running now, is all about the shot gun, and quick throws. There are far more mobile to semi mobile qbs out there right now. And not all of them, like Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, (who extends plays as well as anyone not named ben rapist) and hardly runs. That's my point. Even Andrew Luck, he uses his mobility to extend plays......That's the kind of qb I WANT.