What if Fisher sucks at RT?

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The dude hasn't even played 1 NFL snap and his camp isn't going so hot but he's already a better player than Albert.... Holy shit.

ya, I own that and if I end up wrong, I still own it.

what do you own champ?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

ya, I own that and if I end up wrong, I still own it.

what do you own champ?

Unfortunately, I own up to being a Chiefs fan.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

when the Brandon Albert LT train crashes and burns after this season, I believe you will understand why this staff doesn't want to pay what Albert wants.

You're missing part of the issue. They used the #1 pick to laterally replace a player. Fisher is not an upgrade. Fisher is not a 'special' talent. They spent the #1 on the type of player that should be drafted in the mid- to late-first. Same if they'd spent that pick on Joeckel. For all the talk about the QB class being weak, the tackle class was the same. The whole draft was the same. The only reason these guys were on top is that there weren't premiere QBs or defensive linemen, or wide receivers, or even blue chip offensive tackles, players that would normally push them down the board in a stronger draft class. There were no Suhs or Ogdens or Lucks or Megatrons. Just a bunch of guys. Like Fisher.

Throw QB out of the equation. Why Fisher instead of, say, Tavon Austin? Why Fisher instead of Dion Jordan? Why Fisher instead of Dee Milliner?

It's an uninspired pick in a mediocre draft. Hell people are using the mediocre draft as a justification for it. When in fact the mediocrity of the draft would have been a perfect excuse for taking a gamble on a potential home run hitter like Austin. Instead we pick another big body. It's like Tyson Jackson all over again. Although not quite that much of head scratcher, obviously.

Hopefully the end result is much better.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You're missing part of the issue. They used the #1 pick to laterally replace a player. Fisher is not an upgrade. Fisher is not a 'special' talent. They spent the #1 on the type of player that should be drafted in the mid- to late-first. Same if they'd spent that pick on Joeckel. For all the talk about the QB class being weak, the tackle class was the same. The whole draft was the same. The only reason these guys were on top is that there weren't premiere QBs or defensive linemen, or wide receivers, or even blue chip offensive tackles, players that would normally push them down the board in a stronger draft class. There were no Suhs or Ogdens or Lucks or Megatrons. Just a bunch of guys. Like Fisher.

Throw QB out of the equation. Why Fisher instead of, say, Tavon Austin? Why Fisher instead of Dion Jordan? Why Fisher instead of Dee Milliner?

It's an uninspired pick in a mediocre draft. Hell people are using the mediocre draft as a justification for it. When in fact the mediocrity of the draft would have been a perfect excuse for taking a gamble on a potential home run hitter like Austin. Instead we pick another big body. It's like Tyson Jackson all over again. Although not quite that much of head scratcher, obviously.

Hopefully the end result is much better.

this is all your opinion with no basis in fact. You won't know how good or bad Fisher is for at least a few years and this is the case with every draft pick.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

this is all your opinion with no basis in fact. You won't know how good or bad Fisher is for at least a few years and this is the case with every draft pick.

Great. A few years. We'll know in a few years if we got a good tackle or not. Whoopee.

Meanwhile, some legitimately TALENTED players (which includes Geno Smith) are going to make huge differences on their respective teams. For instance, if Tavon Austin is as good as advertised, the Rams are probably a playoff team. THAT'S what I call drafting for better players.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

this is all your opinion with no basis in fact. You won't know how good or bad Fisher is for at least a few years and this is the case with every draft pick.

No shit sherlock. Glad you're here to point these things out. Maybe you can be the new Captain Obvious.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

when the Brandon Albert LT train crashes and burns after this season, I believe you will understand why this staff doesn't want to pay what Albert wants.

I have no problem keeping Albert -- he ain't great but you don't need great anymore, but it wasn't in the cards. the staff grabbed the guy they wanted. I know folks want to slam them for it, but I don't see why it isn't a good move, in the end.

Fisher is a better football player than Albert imo. He's got more talent/range, better athlete and he has a winner's atitude -- AKA nasty player, which is a huge problem for Albert. I heard Albert on the radio the other day and he just sounds so ****ing pitiful, so weak it isn't even funny.

there were reports this staff wanted Albert to move inside. he should have gone along with this staff's desire to move in at LG and taken probably the largest LG contract in the league. But it's done. finito. Albert won't be back imo and Fisher is this team's LT going forward.

what a bunch of made up nonsense...jesus christ

what's hilarious, is the chance that Fisher has a better rookie season than Albert did is exactly zero

Albert was a guard who walked into the league and played damn near flawless as a rookie LT for the combined QB talent of Croyle, Huard, Thigpen

You don't like Albert's voice, so he sucks? You must be a scientist.

the guy is a warrior, and FAR AND AWAY our best OL...lmao

Fisher couldn't take his job if he wanted to

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

what a bunch of made up nonsense...jesus christ

what's hilarious, is the chance that Fisher has a better rookie season than Albert did is exactly zero

Albert was a guard who walked into the league and played damn near flawless as a rookie LT for the combined QB talent of Croyle, Huard, Thigpen

You don't like Albert's voice, so he sucks? You must be a scientist.

the guy is a warrior, and FAR AND AWAY our best OL...lmao

Fisher couldn't take his job if he wanted to

BRANDEN ALBERT GOT RIPPED OFFF!!!

shut you vagina she she

[Ace Gunner]

oh wow, he gave permission to spin it any way I want. thx for that.

[Ace Gunner]

Fisher is a better pass blocker than Albert, I see it in his technique. He can hold a block consistently and he has quicker feet than Albert also, which will help more at this level of speedy rushers.

I hate to see Albert go. He's one of the best young LG talents coming up over the past decade and now, it will all go to waste. pitiful.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Fisher is a better pass blocker than Albert, I see it in his technique. He can hold a block consistently and he has quicker feet than Albert also, which will help more at this level of speedy rushers.

I hate to see Albert go. He's one of the best young LG talents coming up over the past decade and now, it will all go to waste. pitiful.

And all that technique is putting him on his ass when he faces the mighty Austen Lane in practice.

I hate how we're making the lateral move with the #1 overall pick just like keg was talking about. I also hate how Albert played his ass off last year, and will likely do the same thing this year, and how we'll likely be DOWNGRADING from an experienced LT who blocked for some terrible shitty**** QBs (making his job much harder) to a confused rookie from the MAC conference who might not even be as good as Albert when he hits his prime.

All we can do at this point is hope that Fisher doesn't suck. Maybe if he even plays good enough, I'd be fine with Dorsey still being able to get Albert back to KC to play LT for a few more years. Odds are that Albert is going to smoke Fisher out of the water when you compare the two players.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by SNR

And all that technique is putting him on his ass when he faces the mighty Austen Lane in practice.

I hate how we're making the lateral move with the #1 overall pick just like keg was talking about. I also hate how Albert played his ass off last year, and will likely do the same thing this year, and how we'll likely be DOWNGRADING from an experienced LT who blocked for some terrible shitty**** QBs (making his job much harder) to a confused rookie from the MAC conference who might not even be as good as Albert when he hits his prime.

All we can do at this point is hope that Fisher doesn't suck. Maybe if he even plays good enough, I'd be fine with Dorsey still being able to get Albert back to KC to play LT for a few more years. Odds are that Albert is going to smoke Fisher out of the water when you compare the two players.

we shall see.. RT is on the right, though, not the left. sick of the dumbocity

I'm out.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Fisher is a better pass blocker than Albert, I see it in his technique. He can hold a block consistently and he has quicker feet than Albert also, which will help more at this level of speedy rushers.

I hate to see Albert go. He's one of the best young LG talents coming up over the past decade and now, it will all go to waste. pitiful.

You don't have ****ing clue.

Albert has some of the quickest feet I've ever seen for a big man, which is the reason he has been consistenly effective as a pass blocker in spite of poor technique.

[Ace Gunner]

If my job depended on Albert, I'd be looking hard for an alternative.

setting aside the opinion both Joeckel & Fisher were the best players in this draft, I'm pretty sure if the Chiefs had not chosen an LT 1.1 Albert would have held out and this season would have begun a ****ing nightmare.

[CoMoChief]

Personally I preferred Joeckel if they were gonna go ahead with OT with the pick.

If not then Austin, at he'd hit ya some homeruns on the field in some part of the game. Plus we need a ****ing KR/PR like no one's business. The #1 overall pick should have immediate and important impact of the game and should almost hit the ground running with exception of QB.

Fisher is not a Jake Long. Thats not really to say Fisher can't get a lot better, but he certainly doesnt have the credentials of Long coming out college, or even Joeckel to be quite honest w/ ya. Long and Joeckel played for a couple of really big name schools, NFL factories if you will, and always played against some of the best talent in the nation, a lot of which they'll see at the next level eventually.

Fisher comes from a small school playing against lesser talent. He's a big fish in a small pond. This was a reach pick in which a coach works out with a player and says/thinks, "Man if he can handle change with this and a couple things, and get used to that, then he'll be a dominant force in the league for us." Is that really what you want from the first overall pick? I'm not sure. I hope he's able to improve and become dominant. The Albert situation has really put this team in a pickle. What if Fisher sucks? Albert won't be a Chief next season and this team is ready to win NOW. It's important that Fisher hits the ground running and can have a dominant season.