What if Fisher sucks at RT?

[CoMoChief]

Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.

[Ace Gunner]

oh wow, he gave permission to spin it any way I want. thx for that.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Reproduce?

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

As I said earlier (maybe it was in another thread), we used the 1.1 to replace a guy we got 1.15. It doesn't make much sense. It's not like Fisher is Willie Roaf.

when the Brandon Albert LT train crashes and burns after this season, I believe you will understand why this staff doesn't want to pay what Albert wants.

I have no problem keeping Albert -- he ain't great but you don't need great anymore, but it wasn't in the cards. the staff grabbed the guy they wanted. I know folks want to slam them for it, but I don't see why it isn't a good move, in the end.

Fisher is a better football player than Albert imo. He's got more talent/range, better athlete and he has a winner's atitude -- AKA nasty player, which is a huge problem for Albert. I heard Albert on the radio the other day and he just sounds so ****ing pitiful, so weak it isn't even funny.

there were reports this staff wanted Albert to move inside. he should have gone along with this staff's desire to move in at LG and taken probably the largest LG contract in the league. But it's done. finito. Albert won't be back imo and Fisher is this team's LT going forward.

[jd1020]

The dude hasn't even played 1 NFL snap and his camp isn't going so hot but he's already a better player than Albert.... Holy shit.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Reproduce?

Are you offering, Sally?

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The dude hasn't even played 1 NFL snap and his camp isn't going so hot but he's already a better player than Albert.... Holy shit.

ya, I own that and if I end up wrong, I still own it.

what do you own champ?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

ya, I own that and if I end up wrong, I still own it.

what do you own champ?

Unfortunately, I own up to being a Chiefs fan.

[Ace Gunner]

Fisher is a better pass blocker than Albert, I see it in his technique. He can hold a block consistently and he has quicker feet than Albert also, which will help more at this level of speedy rushers.

I hate to see Albert go. He's one of the best young LG talents coming up over the past decade and now, it will all go to waste. pitiful.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I need to follow camp more closely. Who else is he struggling against?

that Austen feller'

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

when the Brandon Albert LT train crashes and burns after this season, I believe you will understand why this staff doesn't want to pay what Albert wants.

You're missing part of the issue. They used the #1 pick to laterally replace a player. Fisher is not an upgrade. Fisher is not a 'special' talent. They spent the #1 on the type of player that should be drafted in the mid- to late-first. Same if they'd spent that pick on Joeckel. For all the talk about the QB class being weak, the tackle class was the same. The whole draft was the same. The only reason these guys were on top is that there weren't premiere QBs or defensive linemen, or wide receivers, or even blue chip offensive tackles, players that would normally push them down the board in a stronger draft class. There were no Suhs or Ogdens or Lucks or Megatrons. Just a bunch of guys. Like Fisher.

Throw QB out of the equation. Why Fisher instead of, say, Tavon Austin? Why Fisher instead of Dion Jordan? Why Fisher instead of Dee Milliner?

It's an uninspired pick in a mediocre draft. Hell people are using the mediocre draft as a justification for it. When in fact the mediocrity of the draft would have been a perfect excuse for taking a gamble on a potential home run hitter like Austin. Instead we pick another big body. It's like Tyson Jackson all over again. Although not quite that much of head scratcher, obviously.

Hopefully the end result is much better.

[Ace Gunner]

If my job depended on Albert, I'd be looking hard for an alternative.

setting aside the opinion both Joeckel & Fisher were the best players in this draft, I'm pretty sure if the Chiefs had not chosen an LT 1.1 Albert would have held out and this season would have begun a ****ing nightmare.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You're missing part of the issue. They used the #1 pick to laterally replace a player. Fisher is not an upgrade. Fisher is not a 'special' talent. They spent the #1 on the type of player that should be drafted in the mid- to late-first. Same if they'd spent that pick on Joeckel. For all the talk about the QB class being weak, the tackle class was the same. The whole draft was the same. The only reason these guys were on top is that there weren't premiere QBs or defensive linemen, or wide receivers, or even blue chip offensive tackles, players that would normally push them down the board in a stronger draft class. There were no Suhs or Ogdens or Lucks or Megatrons. Just a bunch of guys. Like Fisher.

Throw QB out of the equation. Why Fisher instead of, say, Tavon Austin? Why Fisher instead of Dion Jordan? Why Fisher instead of Dee Milliner?

It's an uninspired pick in a mediocre draft. Hell people are using the mediocre draft as a justification for it. When in fact the mediocrity of the draft would have been a perfect excuse for taking a gamble on a potential home run hitter like Austin. Instead we pick another big body. It's like Tyson Jackson all over again. Although not quite that much of head scratcher, obviously.

Hopefully the end result is much better.

this is all your opinion with no basis in fact. You won't know how good or bad Fisher is for at least a few years and this is the case with every draft pick.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Fisher is a better pass blocker than Albert, I see it in his technique. He can hold a block consistently and he has quicker feet than Albert also, which will help more at this level of speedy rushers.

I hate to see Albert go. He's one of the best young LG talents coming up over the past decade and now, it will all go to waste. pitiful.

And all that technique is putting him on his ass when he faces the mighty Austen Lane in practice.

I hate how we're making the lateral move with the #1 overall pick just like keg was talking about. I also hate how Albert played his ass off last year, and will likely do the same thing this year, and how we'll likely be DOWNGRADING from an experienced LT who blocked for some terrible shitty**** QBs (making his job much harder) to a confused rookie from the MAC conference who might not even be as good as Albert when he hits his prime.

All we can do at this point is hope that Fisher doesn't suck. Maybe if he even plays good enough, I'd be fine with Dorsey still being able to get Albert back to KC to play LT for a few more years. Odds are that Albert is going to smoke Fisher out of the water when you compare the two players.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

this is all your opinion with no basis in fact. You won't know how good or bad Fisher is for at least a few years and this is the case with every draft pick.

Great. A few years. We'll know in a few years if we got a good tackle or not. Whoopee.

Meanwhile, some legitimately TALENTED players (which includes Geno Smith) are going to make huge differences on their respective teams. For instance, if Tavon Austin is as good as advertised, the Rams are probably a playoff team. THAT'S what I call drafting for better players.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by SNR

And all that technique is putting him on his ass when he faces the mighty Austen Lane in practice.

I hate how we're making the lateral move with the #1 overall pick just like keg was talking about. I also hate how Albert played his ass off last year, and will likely do the same thing this year, and how we'll likely be DOWNGRADING from an experienced LT who blocked for some terrible shitty**** QBs (making his job much harder) to a confused rookie from the MAC conference who might not even be as good as Albert when he hits his prime.

All we can do at this point is hope that Fisher doesn't suck. Maybe if he even plays good enough, I'd be fine with Dorsey still being able to get Albert back to KC to play LT for a few more years. Odds are that Albert is going to smoke Fisher out of the water when you compare the two players.

we shall see.. RT is on the right, though, not the left. sick of the dumbocity

I'm out.