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Old 08-03-2013, 01:52 PM   #1
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Sure, it's an important position, but we're not talking about the next Willie Roaf here. He's not even an upgrade over the LT we already had.
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:55 PM   #2
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Sure, it's an important position, but we're not talking about the next Willie Roaf here. He's not even an upgrade over the LT we already had.
wrong again.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:02 PM   #3
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wrong again.
Which we will spend the 15th or 16th pick in next year's draft on.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:06 PM   #4
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wrong again.
No, he isn't wrong.

Albert is still something of a technical mess, but he recovers from technical mistake3s with superior athletic ability.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:07 PM   #5
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If he sucks at RT its just karma for making that pick at #1.

So ****ing stupid.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:26 PM   #6
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No, he isn't wrong.

Albert is still something of a technical mess, but he recovers from technical mistake3s with superior athletic ability.
not sure what your point is. Fisher was drafted to play LT and unless Albert moves to RT, he's gone. Albert does not want to move to RT, he wants premium LT money. Fact is, he's not a premium LT. He's good, but not great. This is the issue kc's front office is going through with Albert, this is the road block.

Miami didn't even want to give kc a second round pick for Albert. This should tell you something.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:31 PM   #7
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not sure what your point is. Fisher was drafted to play LT and unless Albert moves to RT, he's gone. Albert does not want to move to RT, he wants premium LT money. Fact is, he's not a premium LT. He's good, but not great. This is the issue kc's front office is going through with Albert, this is the road block.

Miami didn't even want to give kc a second round pick for Albert. This should tell you something.
Look, just shut the **** up. We had this argument for months before the draft, and I don't feel like having it again with a ****ing Donks fan who spouts the same garbage about LTs being crucial to the success of an offense that doesn't have a real QB.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:33 PM   #8
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Look, just shut the **** up. We had this argument for months before the draft, and I don't feel like having it again with a ****ing Donks fan who spouts the same garbage about LTs being crucial to the success of an offense that doesn't have a real QB.
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yah, Alex Smith was a bad move, but it doesn't change the fact that Fisher is the long term LT.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:43 PM   #9
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yah, Alex Smith was a bad move, but it doesn't change the fact that Fisher is the long term LT.
It also doesn't change the fact that we would probably be able to find an equal or better LT prospect picking in the teens in 2014. You can, maybe, justify using the #1 pick on the next Jonathan Ogden. You can't justify the pick if we're talking about the next Branden Albert. Which we are.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:44 PM   #10
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No, he isn't wrong.

Albert is still something of a technical mess, but he recovers from technical mistake3s with superior athletic ability.
Sometimes.

A lot of the time his lack of footwork, particularly the lack of a functional kick-step, doesn't allow him to recover. He's not very good against wide speed rushers and he is pretty bad most of the time once he gets to the second level - just has a real hard time finding his man and holding the block.

Honestly, the team would be much better off by putting him inside right now, getting Fisher over to the LT position and putting Stephenson in at RT which would basically give the two future bookends immediate experience and cohesiveness with the line as it stands.

Replacing a LG in 2014 is a much easier task than having Fisher try to learn the NFL speed at RT then shift him back over to the left side in 2014.

It should be this in 2013:
LT: Fisher
LG: Albert
C: Hudson
RG: Schwartz/Asamoah
RT: Stephenson

Then you can have either Allen or Reynolds (who I've always said would be a pretty damn good NFL LG) take the LG spot in 2014.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:49 PM   #11
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Sometimes.

A lot of the time his lack of footwork, particularly the lack of a functional kick-step, doesn't allow him to recover. He's not very good against wide speed rushers and he is pretty bad most of the time once he gets to the second level - just has a real hard time finding his man and holding the block.

Honestly, the team would be much better off by putting him inside right now, getting Fisher over to the LT position and putting Stephenson in at RT which would basically give the two future bookends immediate experience and cohesiveness with the line as it stands.

Replacing a LG in 2014 is a much easier task than having Fisher try to learn the NFL speed at RT then shift him back over to the left side in 2014.

It should be this in 2013:
LT: Fisher
LG: Albert
C: Hudson
RG: Schwartz/Asamoah
RT: Stephenson

Then you can have either Allen or Reynolds (who I've always said would be a pretty damn good NFL LG) take the LG spot in 2014.
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Can that play RT? > Fisher
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Sacc and Buzz, two guys i actually really enjoy... except when it comes to Albert.

He must've smashed their old ladies or something, its the only thing that makes any sense, particularly when you consider he was rated #5 as a pass blocker last year.
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