Chiefs What if Fisher sucks at RT? - Page 12

CoMoChief · 08-02-2013, 08:44 AM

Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-03-2013, 02:24 PM

Not gonna worry about it now.

Training Camp.

If he were kicking ass, you'd say it's only training camp...

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No, he isn't wrong.

Albert is still something of a technical mess, but he recovers from technical mistake3s with superior athletic ability.

not sure what your point is. Fisher was drafted to play LT and unless Albert moves to RT, he's gone. Albert does not want to move to RT, he wants premium LT money. Fact is, he's not a premium LT. He's good, but not great. This is the issue kc's front office is going through with Albert, this is the road block.

Miami didn't even want to give kc a second round pick for Albert. This should tell you something.

**RealSNR** · 08-03-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I need to follow camp more closely. Who else is he struggling against?

The pic that's been floating around where he gets bowled back onto his ass was against Austen Lane. I've seen tweets where he whiffed against Chavis, and most recently got schooled hard by Tyson Jackson.

He seems to be holding up against Allen Bailey, though. At least there's that

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Tombstone's football knowledge comes from the basis of what Bill Williamson writes.

wrong again!

Like I said, if you don't like the Fisher pick, fine with me. But kc drafted him #1 for a reason and that reason is to play LT.

**RealSNR** · 08-03-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

not sure what your point is. Fisher was drafted to play LT and unless Albert moves to RT, he's gone. Albert does not want to move to RT, he wants premium LT money. Fact is, he's not a premium LT. He's good, but not great. This is the issue kc's front office is going through with Albert, this is the road block.

Miami didn't even want to give kc a second round pick for Albert. This should tell you something.

Look, just shut the **** up. We had this argument for months before the draft, and I don't feel like having it again with a ****ing Donks fan who spouts the same garbage about LTs being crucial to the success of an offense that doesn't have a real QB.

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Look, just shut the **** up. We had this argument for months before the draft, and I don't feel like having it again with a ****ing Donks fan who spouts the same garbage about LTs being crucial to the success of an offense that doesn't have a real QB.

lol

yah, Alex Smith was a bad move, but it doesn't change the fact that Fisher is the long term LT.

jd1020 · 08-03-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

Not gonna worry about it now.

Training Camp.

If he were kicking ass, you'd say it's only training camp...

Actually I dont really care either way.

The pick, good or bad, doesn't improve the team. Only the most ignorant franchises in the league, like the Jaguars, Dolphins, and... the Chiefs, make that selection.

RunKC · 08-03-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

The pic that's been floating around where he gets bowled back onto his ass was against Austen Lane. I've seen tweets where he whiffed against Chavis, and most recently got schooled hard by Tyson Jackson.

He seems to be holding up against Allen Bailey, though. At least there's that

Doesn't sound good, but I'll start worrying about him when I see this happening in a game.

Setsuna · 08-03-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Actually I dont really care either way.

The pick, good or bad, doesn't improve the team. Only the most ignorant franchises in the league, like the Jaguars, Dolphins, and... the Chiefs, make that selection.

Freaking this! /thread

RunKC · 08-03-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Actually I dont really care either way.

The pick, good or bad, doesn't improve the team. Only the most ignorant franchises in the league, like the Jaguars, Dolphins, and... the Chiefs, make that selection.

Is this is a ****ing joke? Why don't you ask the Patriots if they would have liked a player like Fisher on their OL the last few years.

The NYG won their SB's over the Patriots primarily because their DL owned the hell out of everybody's OL, especially the Patriots.

jd1020 · 08-03-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Is this is a ****ing joke? Why don't you ask the Patriots if they would have liked a player like Fisher on their OL the last few years.

The NYG won their SB's over the Patriots primarily because their DL owned the hell out of everybody's OL, especially the Patriots.

I'd love to ask the Patriots... Unfortunately they aren't a bottom feeder team picking top 5 in search of a ****ing lineman.

And the NYG won their SB's over the Patriots due to last minute heroics on 2 miraculous plays by the Giants offense... not the defense. Try and try again.

keg in kc · 08-03-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

yah, Alex Smith was a bad move, but it doesn't change the fact that Fisher is the long term LT.

It also doesn't change the fact that we would probably be able to find an equal or better LT prospect picking in the teens in 2014. You can, maybe, justify using the #1 pick on the next Jonathan Ogden. You can't justify the pick if we're talking about the next Branden Albert. Which we are.

**DeezNutz** · 08-03-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

It also doesn't change the fact that we would probably be able to find an equal or better LT prospect picking in the teens in 2014. You can, maybe, justify using the #1 pick on the next Jonathan Ogden. You can't justify the pick if we're talking about the next Branden Albert. Which we are.

If he ends up being this good, it will be OK. Not great, but OK. Albert has been ridiculously undervalued on this board.

keg in kc · 08-03-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If he ends up being this good, it will be OK. Not great, but OK. Albert has been ridiculously undervalued on this board.

I would agree with you if we were talking about an equivalent pick. We're talking about the #1. We're using the #1 to replace a guy picked 15th.

**DeezNutz** · 08-03-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I would agree with you if we were talking about an equivalent pick. We're talking about the #1. We're using the #1 to replace a guy picked 15th.

Yeah, it's dumb. Totally flawed approach. But I'm speaking simply about Fisher's potential level of talent.

Self-created, unnecessary holes are frustrating, for sure.

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