What if Fisher sucks at RT?

[CoMoChief]

Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

You all should be way more worried about Poe because aside from a great combine, he never proved anything in games.

Fisher proved SOOOO much more than Poe playing against MAC competition

They're both pretty raw players. Poe at least proved in the 2nd half of last year that he could hold his own pretty damn nicely in this league.

Just go back to Donkeyland, dude. You clearly don't know anything about this team, and if you keep talking like this people will start questioning if you even know anything about the game of football.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

he's the starting LT because he's getting paid $10m and that's all there is to discuss... this ain't rocket science.

is everyone reeruned?

Albert is the best OL on our team...period

Albert is the best LT...period

these are objective facts

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

It was games like the senior bowl that solidified Fisher's status, where he competed with other players from big time D1 schools.

You all should be way more worried about Poe because aside from a great combine, he never proved anything in games.

Poe showed flashes of being a dominant NT at times last year while playing with horrible DE's. He still has a lot to prove but he showed some of that athleticism and power to us as a rookie.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Albert has been ridiculously undervalued on this board.

I strongly disagree with that, every time i've seen some idiot knock him they get shouted down quickly.

Its going to suck losing that guy, maybe with a little luck we can keep him.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

is everyone reeruned?

Albert is the best OL on our team...period

Albert is the best LT...period

these are objective facts

so why did kc try to trade him for a second round pick and why did no other team bite?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

Just go back to Donkeyland, dude. You clearly don't know anything about this team, and if you keep talking like this people will start questioning if you even know anything about the game of football.

I think this has already happened. I know I did when he was trying to use a Bill ****ing Williamson article to prove a point.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

so why did kc try to trade him for a second round pick and why did no other team bite?

Albert is the best OL on the team

Albert is the best LT on the team

if you have evidence to contradict this, share it with us...please, enlighten us as to who is actually the best LT on our roster...we're all waiting anxiously to hear

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by SNR

Fisher proved SOOOO much more than Poe playing against MAC competition

They're both pretty raw players. Poe at least proved in the 2nd half of last year that he could hold his own pretty damn nicely in this league.

Just go back to Donkeyland, dude. You clearly don't know anything about this team, and if you keep talking like this people will start questioning if you even know anything about the game of football.

So, was Poe worth the #4 overall pick for being able to "hold is own pretty damn nicely" and not be a dominant player? Poe should have been a lot better than that for being the #4 overall pick.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

you keep saying that Albert is better than Fisher and all I'm saying is you don't know this. It will take a few years to find this out and until then, Fisher will play RT.

You certainly can say that, when we're talking draft evaluation. Fisher *at best* heading into the 2013 draft was an equivalent prospect to Albert in 2008, and that's probably being generous. If you want to move it into post-draft talk, he certainly isn't a better LT right now, unless Albert gets injured and Fisher's moved there right now. Either way, the point is that Fisher now was not a better prospect than Albert then. That's why I'm comparing his draft value to Albert's draft value.

And I've never said that Fisher can't or won't be good, or that he can't exceed expectations. All I've said is that I thought it was a bit silly to create a hole at LT when there wasn't one, and then use the #1 pick to "upgrade" it. Albert should've been re-signed, and the #1 pick should've either been used on a playmaker or given away for value. It's poor management which indicates to me that, so far, while the names have changed on the doors at 1 Arrowhead, not much else has.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

he's the starting LT because he's getting paid $10m and that's all there is to discuss... this ain't rocket science.

You're full of shit, thats not rocket science either.

Last year PFF had Albert as the 5th best pass blocker in the game...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...football-focus

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Albert is the best OL on the team

Albert is the best LT on the team

if you have evidence to contradict this, share it with us...please, enlighten us as to who is actually the best LT on our roster...we're all waiting anxiously to hear

Ok, here's evidence--

kc refuses to give him a long term contract to play LT. They instead franchise him and try to trade him. Also, kc drafts his replacement in Fisher.

Need anything more?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

So, was Poe worth the #4 overall pick for being able to "hold is own pretty damn nicely" and not be a dominant player? Poe should have been a lot better than that for being the #4 overall pick.

Did I sleep through the 2012 draft, or was Poe taken at 11, not 4?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

So, was Poe worth the #4 overall pick for being able to "hold is own pretty damn nicely" and not be a dominant player? Poe should have been a lot better than that for being the #4 overall pick.

He was taken that high based on rare, raw physical skills... everyone but you knew he needed time to get polished up.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Ok, here's evidence--

kc refuses to give him a long term contract to play LT. They instead franchise him and try to trade him. Also, kc drafts his replacement in Fisher.

Need anything more?

jesus ****, you are embarrasasingly ****ing stupid

no, that isn't evidence...that's information about a trade

tell us who the best LT on the Chiefs is?

please, we're all waiting to laugh even louder at you

where do you stupid assholes come from?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You certainly can say that, when we're talking draft evaluation. Fisher *at best* heading into the 2013 draft was an equivalent prospect to Albert in 2008, and that's probably being generous. If you want to move it into post-draft talk, he certainly isn't a better LT right now, unless Albert gets injured and Fisher's moved there right now. Either way, the point is that Fisher now was not a better prospect than Albert then. That's why I'm comparing his draft value to Albert's draft value.

And I've never said that Fisher can't or won't be good, or that he can't exceed expectations. All I've said is that I thought it was a bit silly to create a hole at LT when there wasn't one, and then use the #1 pick to "upgrade" it. Albert should've been re-signed, and the #1 pick should've either been used on a playmaker or given away for value. It's poor management which indicates to me that, so far, while the names have changed on the doors at 1 Arrowhead, not much else has.

Obviously kc's front office sees things differently than you. Otherwise they would have negotiated a long term contract with Albert and not drafted Fisher.