Chiefs What if Fisher sucks at RT? - Page 18

CoMoChief · 08-02-2013, 08:44 AM

Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.

milkman · 08-03-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

I think they put their best OT's on the field for this year. not one thing stupid about that.

So, they want Albert to accept a move to guard, even while they think that he's one of the two best tackles on this team.

That sum up pretty much what you are telling us,

Hammock Parties · 08-03-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Sometimes.

A lot of the time his lack of footwork, particularly the lack of a functional kick-step, doesn't allow him to recover. He's not very good against wide speed rushers and he is pretty bad most of the time once he gets to the second level - just has a real hard time finding his man and holding the block.

Honestly, the team would be much better off by putting him inside right now, getting Fisher over to the LT position and putting Stephenson in at RT which would basically give the two future bookends immediate experience and cohesiveness with the line as it stands.

Replacing a LG in 2014 is a much easier task than having Fisher try to learn the NFL speed at RT then shift him back over to the left side in 2014.

It should be this in 2013:
LT: Fisher
LG: Albert
C: Hudson
RG: Schwartz/Asamoah
RT: Stephenson

Then you can have either Allen or Reynolds (who I've always said would be a pretty damn good NFL LG) take the LG spot in 2014.

Ace Gunner · 08-03-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So, they want Albert to accept a move to guard, even while they think that he's one of the two best tackles on this team.

That sum up pretty much what you are telling us,

nah, that's all you want to hear.

Albert's highlight reels?

*Only when he's blocking for Jamaal

*you never see Albert demolishing a guy during a pass play

*His rookie season the team was a loser and he is the great and powerful LT though

*he's never sniffed Hawaii as a player

*he won't allow the staff to move him

*he wants so much cash even the free market of disparity AKA the Phins said he wants too much

*the Cards wanted Albert -- until they found out what he wants -- they changed there tune

*Albert, unless he finds some killer hot sauce, has peaked as an LT

Ace Gunner · 08-03-2013, 06:57 PM

and do you all remember how the staff had Brad Cottam helping Albert all season his rook year? **** no ya don't. Do you remember how Waters went ProBowl that year Albert was a rook? **** no ya don't.

Ya. Albert the rook sensation sandwich. shit. keep on livin in that... 2008 season. ya man'o.

Saccopoo · 08-03-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Great. A few years. We'll know in a few years if we got a good tackle or not. Whoopee.

Meanwhile, some legitimately TALENTED players (which includes Geno Smith) are going to make huge differences on their respective teams. For instance, if Tavon Austin is as good as advertised, the Rams are probably a playoff team. THAT'S what I call drafting for better players.

I said it on draft day that the Chiefs and the Jets basically took the same positions but the Chiefs did it through free agency while the Jets did it through the draft.

The Jets got Geno Smith, Dee Milliner and Sheldon Richardson. (All of whom I would have been happy with the Chiefs first pick in the draft.)

The Chiefs got Alex Smith, Sean Smith and Mike DeVito.

As well, the Jets got an offensive tackle I the draft in Oday Aboushi that I felt was the same level as Fisher and Joeckel.

It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out for the two teams.

ChiefsCountry · 08-03-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

nah, that's all you want to hear.

Albert's highlight reels?

*Only when he's blocking for Jamaal

*you never see Albert demolishing a guy during a pass play

*His rookie season the team was a loser and he is the great and powerful LT though

*he's never sniffed Hawaii as a player

*he won't allow the staff to move him

*he wants so much cash even the free market of disparity AKA the Phins said he wants too much

*the Cards wanted Albert -- until they found out what he wants -- they changed there tune

*Albert, unless he finds some killer hot sauce, has peaked as an LT

You are a ****ing idiot.
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milkman · 08-03-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

nah, that's all you want to hear.
Albert's highlight reels?
*Only when he's blocking for Jamaal
*you never see Albert demolishing a guy during a pass play
*His rookie season the team was a loser and he is the great and powerful LT though
*he's never sniffed Hawaii as a player
*he won't allow the staff to move him
*he wants so much cash even the free market of disparity AKA the Phins said he wants too much
*the Cards wanted Albert -- until they found out what he wants -- they changed there tune
*Albert, unless he finds some killer hot sauce, has peaked as an LT

It's all a bunch of bullshit.
Since coming into the league, only 3 or 4 LTs have given up fewer sacks, while protecting the blindside of the worst QB situation in the league.
That's the bottom line.

Rasputin · 08-03-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

Can that play RT? > Fisher

**Easy 6** · 08-03-2013, 07:58 PM

Sacc and Buzz, two guys i actually really enjoy... except when it comes to Albert.

He must've smashed their old ladies or something, its the only thing that makes any sense, particularly when you consider he was rated #5 as a pass blocker last year.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-03-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he's our starting LT because he's the best OL on the team, and the best LT without question...

there's nothing to discuss....jesus, it ain't rocket algebra

**kysirsoze** · 08-03-2013, 08:57 PM

Holy shit, just saw this thread for the first time.

What a stupid waste of time.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-04-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

he's the starting LT because he's getting paid $10m and that's all there is to discuss... this ain't rocket science.

You grow even dumber by the day. I'm impressed.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-04-2013, 09:53 AM

Not only is Albert the best tackle on the team, he is as good as any tackle in that division including that over rated one out in Pile High.

Deberg_1990 · 08-04-2013, 10:00 AM

I look forward to all the Geno threads this year every time he completes a 10 yard pass.

Pablo · 08-04-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I look forward to all the Geno threads this year every time he completes a 10 yard pass.

I'll be excited to read all the Fisher praise when he does whatever sort of boring shit a RT does.

SICK BLOCK!

TD CUZ FISHER DIDNT LET THE POCKET COLLAPSE!! SWEEEEEEET.

08-02-2013, 08:44 AM
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