Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 54

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

**Rausch** · 08-15-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

The most NFL ready QB in the draft cant beat out Buttfumble.

I thought buttfumble was playing 2nd team this game...

Marcellus · 08-15-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I thought buttfumble was playing 2nd team this game...

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The team announced Thursday that Sanchez will start over rookie Geno Smith for the preseason home game against the Jacksonville Jaguars on Saturday night.

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**Rausch** · 08-15-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

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My bad.

I stand corrected...

DJ's left nut · 08-15-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I guess I don't see any other QB starting for the Chiefs in the foreseeable future other than Alex Smith.

Reid loves the guy, they are both from Utah, and there's no way the Chiefs traded what they did for a game manager to throw him out after next season.

I don't think this is going to be a Favre/Rodgers situation because 1) Bray isn't Rodgers and 2) Favre was wearing out his welcome with all his bullshit retirement crap. The way Reid works you are likely to see Bray become a preseason hero and be traded to some team who thinks he's legit and become the next Kolb or [insert Eagles backup here].

Reid cut McNabb loose when he had to and Reid loved that guy like a son.

Unless Smith takes us to consecutive AFC championship games, Reid will never have the bond with Smith that he had with McNabb. Even if Smith is that good, Reid didn't take Smith with his first ever draft pick and groom his straight out of college. There are a myriad of reasons why Reid won't ever be as loyal to Smith as he was with McNabb and he still moved on from McNabb after Donovan had a Pro-Bowl season in 2009.

If Smith is nothing more than the 8 win QB you believe him to be and Bray continues to develop into a potential replacement, Reid will absolutely move on from him.

BigCatDaddy · 08-15-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BourbonMan

Sanchez chosen over Geno

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/n...jaguars-081513

To start a pre-season game. Nice misleading lead in though.

DJ's left nut · 08-15-2013, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I don't know how Geno Smith is going turn out he could bust or he could do great in the league? I just think it would have been more fun to find out if he were a Chief. Also I've said I wanted draft a quarterback this year and next year with a high round pick. I think this franchise can draft a few years in a row and create competition and trade bait as well. We have neglected the QB position from the draft for so long I'd really like to see them step up and take somebody. I want them to invest in a guy early in the draft and in practice to make him better. I want the QB to get to start as a rookie quarterback and that is something we haven't seen for a long time. At least it wouldn't be a retread and have to root for another teams trash.

Eh - you're a fan.

You want the team to win.

If Geno went out there and played like the guy that's presently losing a head to head competition with buttfumble, we'd end up going 4-12. And you can say all day right now that "it would be fun to watch him develop" but you're largely full of shit. All of us are. Losing sucks. And in the end it doesn't matter how you lose, losing over and over again sucks badly and no, no matter the cause, fans aren't patient of it.

I know this because I saw how quickly this fanbase turned on Herm Edwards when he was trying to develop a bunch of youth. Herm was an idiot, mind you, but nobody was saying "man, it sure has been fun to watch Hali, Flowers, Carr, Bowe, Albert and DJ develop like they are..."

That was actually a damn exciting season from a player development standpoint, but the season was interminably long and just awful by the end.

This team's been too shitty for too long. Royals fans know all too well what happens when a team tries to build on a foundation of sand. You can't build greatness on top of smoldering rubble. This team has to put a foundation in place that serves as a positive proving ground for a young QB. Getting a guy like Alex Smith in here to build some positive momentum will be how we get our franchise QB.

Not desperately stabbing at the nearest option.

DJ's left nut · 08-15-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

To start a pre-season game. Nice misleading lead in though.

I listened to an interview with a Jets beat writer this morning that has said all along that the Ryan has been saying in-house that the starter for game 2 will start the season opener.

Sanchez will start week 1. I don't anticipate he'll stay there, but he'll open the season at #1 on the depth chart.

BigCatDaddy · 08-15-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I listened to an interview with a Jets beat writer this morning that has said all along that the Ryan has been saying in-house that the starter for game 2 will start the season opener.

Sanchez will start week 1. I don't anticipate he'll stay there, but he'll open the season at #1 on the depth chart.

I think that's often best for a rookie QB who is playing behind a vet that will ultimately suck. Let the vet come out and stink it up and you can always say he's a known quantity now we are going with the rookie with upside and the fan base will back off.. The Jets are just a horrible situation for any QB to be in though.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-15-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I don't know how Geno Smith is going turn out he could bust or he could do great in the league? I just think it would have been more fun to find out if he were a Chief. Also I've said I wanted draft a quarterback this year and next year with a high round pick. I think this franchise can draft a few years in a row and create competition and trade bait as well. We have neglected the QB position from the draft for so long I'd really like to see them step up and take somebody. I want them to invest in a guy early in the draft and in practice to make him better. I want the QB to get to start as a rookie quarterback and that is something we haven't seen for a long time. At least it wouldn't be a retread and have to root for another teams trash.

This is ridiculous beyond words.

Geno Smith is not and was not an NFL ready QB, despite what you, Claynus and other clueless members of the Geno Mafia thought. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Teams cannot draft a player at 1.1 (and really, in the first round) that aren't NFL-Ready, because it sets their franchise back.

Jonathan Baldwin is a perfect example (as is A.J. Jenkins in SF). If Baldwin hadn't been a diva and had been NFL-Ready, the Chiefs would be heading into 2013 with a very potent offense with few questions about the receiving corp. Instead, they do have questions and will likely address the WR position in the 2014 draft and free agency period. THAT'S how missing on a high draft pick can screw up a team.

With today's CBA, it's unlikely you'll ever see a player in the Top Ten EVER sit a year. Teams need to decide at the end of year two whether or not to extend that player for a fifth year. If a QB sits a year and plays some his second year, how would you know whether to extend him or not? That's just yet ANOTHER bad and WRONG idea.

And finally, who gives a flying **** about HOW a player was acquired? I mean, seriously? Priest Holmes and Casey Weigman were very productive players for the Chiefs that were acquired as free agents. Does that mean that their value to the Chiefs is any less?

There is NO ONE WAY to win a Super Bowl or win in the playoffs. GM's do the best they can for their teams, regardless of how players are acquired and if they fail, they're fired.

Get over it.

Rasputin · 08-15-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - you're a fan.

You want the team to win.

If Geno went out there and played like the guy that's presently losing a head to head competition with buttfumble, we'd end up going 4-12. And you can say all day right now that "it would be fun to watch him develop" but you're largely full of shit. All of us are. Losing sucks. And in the end it doesn't matter how you lose, losing over and over again sucks badly and no, no matter the cause, fans aren't patient of it.

I know this because I saw how quickly this fanbase turned on Herm Edwards when he was trying to develop a bunch of youth. Herm was an idiot, mind you, but nobody was saying "man, it sure has been fun to watch Hali, Flowers, Carr, Bowe, Albert and DJ develop like they are..."

That was actually a damn exciting season from a player development standpoint, but the season was interminably long and just awful by the end.

This team's been too shitty for too long. Royals fans know all too well what happens when a team tries to build on a foundation of sand. You can't build greatness on top of smoldering rubble. This team has to put a foundation in place that serves as a positive proving ground for a young QB. Getting a guy like Alex Smith in here to build some positive momentum will be how we get our franchise QB.

Not desperately stabbing at the nearest option.

He wasn't losing the competition until after he twisted his ankle and result of a bad practice. Shouldn't expect a guy to have a bad practice?

No I agree with you this fan base doesn't allow time for a player like a quarterback as a rookie grow and get better. We haven't seen it and then there are those who want to see DJ and Tamba Hali get their ring so its always a win now and forget our future.

I was upset how people treated Bernard Pollard. I still don't get the hate that guy got here. He could lay the wood down and separate ball from and head from the offensive player. We didn't need Eric Berry or could have had both on the same team. Could have kept Bernard Pollard and draft a quarterback with the Eric Berry pick. I do love Eric Berry but would have been bad ass if Bonecrusher and EB were SS and FS.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-15-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

He wasn't losing the competition until after he twisted his ankle and result of a bad practice. Shouldn't expect a guy to have a bad practice?

No I agree with you this fan base doesn't allow time for a player like a quarterback as a rookie grow and get better. We haven't seen it and then there are those who want to see DJ and Tamba Hali get their ring so its always a win now and forget our future.

I was upset how people treated Bernard Pollard. I still don't get the hate that guy got here. He could lay the wood down and separate ball from and head from the offensive player. We didn't need Eric Berry or could have had both on the same team. Could have kept Bernard Pollard and draft a quarterback with the Eric Berry pick. I do love Eric Berry but would have been bad ass if Bonecrusher and EB were SS and FS.

Good lord. Pollard's been passed around the league like a hooker at a bachelor party.

Marcellus · 08-15-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I was upset how people treated Bernard Pollard. I still don't get the hate that guy got here. He could lay the wood down and separate ball from and head from the offensive player. We didn't need Eric Berry or could have had both on the same team. Could have kept Bernard Pollard and draft a quarterback with the Eric Berry pick. I do love Eric Berry but would have been bad ass if Bonecrusher and EB were SS and FS.

Pollard sucked here aside from a play here and there. He. Sucked. Badly. To say anything else is revisionist history.He also sucked with the Texans.

Good grief dude.

Rasputin · 08-15-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is ridiculous beyond words.

Geno Smith is not and was not an NFL ready QB, despite what you, Claynus and other clueless members of the Geno Mafia thought. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Teams cannot draft a player at 1.1 (and really, in the first round) that aren't NFL-Ready, because it sets their franchise back.

Jonathan Baldwin is a perfect example (as is A.J. Jenkins in SF). If Baldwin hadn't been a diva and had been NFL-Ready, the Chiefs would be heading into 2013 with a very potent offense with few questions about the receiving corp. Instead, they do have questions and will likely address the WR position in the 2014 draft and free agency period. THAT'S how missing on a high draft pick can screw up a team.

With today's CBA, it's unlikely you'll ever see a player in the Top Ten EVER sit a year. Teams need to decide at the end of year two whether or not to extend that player for a fifth year. If a QB sits a year and plays some his second year, how would you know whether to extend him or not? That's just yet ANOTHER bad and WRONG idea.

And finally, who gives a flying **** about HOW a player was acquired? I mean, seriously? Priest Holmes and Casey Weigman were very productive players for the Chiefs that were acquired as free agents. Does that mean that their value to the Chiefs is any less?

There is NO ONE WAY to win a Super Bowl or win in the playoffs. GM's do the best they can for their teams, regardless of how players are acquired and if they fail, they're fired.

Get over it.

That is total bull shit. He didn't have to be NFL ready but if he does turn out to be a stud then he would have been worth 1.1 pick. So far you are right about Geno Smith not being worth that precious pick as he struggles to make a case to be starter. He is young and has a ways to go that is for sure. If he turns out over the years to be damn good then you would be wrong about him not being worth 1.1. Right now you are right so good for you. Do you want a cookie?

BourbonMan · 08-15-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

To start a pre-season game. Nice misleading lead in though.

Rasputin · 08-15-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good lord. Pollard's been passed around the league like a hooker at a bachelor party.

Well he does have a Super Bowl ring that is more than we can say with out him.

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