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Old 08-16-2013, 11:04 PM  
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*****Royals vs. Tigers, AKA The Hunt for Blue October 8/17*****
After a bitter 3 game losing streak, an improbable double-header sweep has put the train back on track, and now we're ready for more of this:



Royals (64-57)
Starting Lineup
David Lough RF
Eric Hosmer 1B
Billy Butler DH
Alex Gordon LF
Salvador Perez C
Mike Moustakas 3B
Emilio Bonifacio CF
Chris Getz 2B
Alcides Escobar SS

P: Wade Davis (6-9), 5.29 ERA (Last 3 starts: 2-1, 1.96 ERA)

Tigers (71-51)
Starting Lineup
Austin Jackson CF
Don Kelly RF
Miguel Cabrera 3B
Prince Fielder 1B
Victor Martinez DH
Andy Dirks LF
Omar Infante 2B
Brayan Pena C
Jose "The Soprano" Iglesias SS

P: Doug Fister (10-6), 3.60 ERA (Last 3 starts: 1-2, 3.50 ERA)
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:10 PM   #46
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Duffy has to be service time. Let him ride the year out in Omaha, which is two weeks and then we get him for September. Not that big of a deal IMO.
September is two weeks away. That's at least two more Wade Davis starts that could be given to Duffy. If they miss the playoffs by two games or fewer is it a big deal?
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:12 PM   #47
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September is two weeks away. That's at least two more Wade Davis starts that could be given to Duffy. If they miss the playoffs by two games or fewer is it a big deal?
Not if Davis continues to dodge bullets.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:13 PM   #48
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Jim Leyland said our rotation is really good and if we add Duffy to it, it would be lights out and said his 95 MPH fastball is different from a lot of pitchers...
It seems like people in the Royals organization are the only ones who can't see this.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:18 PM   #49
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And Tejada Respods...

"I apologize to my teammates, the Royals organization and to the Kansas City fans," Tejada said in a statement released by the Major League Baseball Players Association. "I have a medical condition that requires medication to treat. I took that medication while re-applying for a Therapeutic Use Exemption. Under the requirements of the Joint Drug Program, I made a mistake in doing so."

I want to believe the guy. Heard him in an interview on 610 last week and he came out and said that he preferred the team had gone out and gotten another second baseman to make the team better. Surely someone that selfless has to be telling the truth here, right?
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September is two weeks away. That's at least two more Wade Davis starts that could be given to Duffy. If they miss the playoffs by two games or fewer is it a big deal?
If Wade pitches like he has his last 3 or 4 starts, no big deal.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:02 PM   #51
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I want to believe the guy. Heard him in an interview on 610 last week and he came out and said that he preferred the team had gone out and gotten another second baseman to make the team better. Surely someone that selfless has to be telling the truth here, right?
What I'm confused by is 1st the denial of his reapplication when it was medically cleared before.

Second, this policy is poorly implemented, because use of it is not something you can just stop at a set date- there are real health implications doing that, not to mention some pretty nasty side effects as your system flushes itself and has to readjust to the absence of the medication.

Lastly, why did he never have to serve the 28 game suspension- even if he was appealing there should have been a determination, and if that wasn't resolved yet, given the medication and previous exemption, he should have been allowed to continue to take it until a final ruling.

It makes no sense that he should get dinged for a 3rd offense if there was a process of appeal and/or reapplication given the substance in question as I have pointed out above and no doctor would advocate immediate discontinuation of a medication like adderall.

Plus, what is this policy of expiring medical excemption? This is a class of drugs to treat an ongoing disorder that doesn't magically cure itself, so its not as if his medical need would say compared to, for example, the temporary prescribing of other banned substances such as steroids to treat an isolated medical condition.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:03 PM   #52
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I want to believe the guy. Heard him in an interview on 610 last week and he came out and said that he preferred the team had gone out and gotten another second baseman to make the team better. Surely someone that selfless has to be telling the truth here, right?
What I'm confused by is 1st the denial of his reapplication when it was medically cleared before.

Second, this policy is poorly implemented, because use of it is not something you can just stop at a set date- there are real health implications doing that, not to mention some pretty nasty side effects as your system flushes itself and has to readjust to the absence of the medication.

Lastly, why did he never have to serve the 28 game suspension- even if he was appealing there should have been a determination, and if that wasn't resolved yet, given the medication and previous exemption, he should have been allowed to continue to take it until a final ruling.

It makes no sense that he should get dinged for a 3rd offense if there was a process of appeal and/or reapplication given the substance in question as I have pointed out above and no doctor would advocate immediate discontinuation of a medication like adderall.

Plus, what is this policy of expiring medical excemption? This is a class of drugs to treat an ongoing disorder that doesn't magically cure itself, so its not as if his medical need would change say compared to, for example, the temporary prescribing of other banned substances such as steroids to treat an isolated medical condition.

AFAIK, there has never been a case of anyone with a real medically diagnosed condition that has been presribed aderall and the other class of drugs FDA approved for treatment ever being "cured".
Some people have previously taken the meds and discontinued after typically tapering down the dosage- much like one would do with anti-depressants, but over a longer step-down time.

If, he had no medically justified reason for the exemption that's one thing, but this isn't the type of drug that's prescribred for cyclical use like antibiotics or something. If you were exempted at some point for this, then there should be no need for reapplying for this again. I've heard of insulin abuse by body builders, but if you were a diabetic that is insulin dependant you wouldn't expect to have to continue fighting for an exemption. Both cases are therapeutic treatment for conditions that are not curable at this time.
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Because of Miggy or in general??
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Because of Miggy or in general??
I was hoping he was talking about Detroit.
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I was hoping he was talking about Detroit.
He doesn't watch baseball and somehow thinks all of us here value his opinion.
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He doesn't watch baseball and somehow thinks all of us here value his opinion.
He should know better than that. Regardless of wether he watches baseball or not.


For that matter, regardless of wether the discussion is even about baseball.
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