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Old 08-19-2013, 12:28 PM  
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The Baldwin/Jenkins thread makes me wonder this.

What are some examples of guys who were busts for the team that drafted them, and then blossomed when they went to a new team?

I'm sure that some exist, but right now I'm having some trouble coming up with a good example. In particular, let's concentrate on high draft picks, but if you have others who languished and then became stars, throw them out there.

Favre flourished with his second team, but I'm not sure he was a bust with his first team. He just didn't play for them.

Priest Holmes flourished with his second team, but he was undrafted and had a 1,000 yard season with his first team.

Randy Moss flourished with New England after busting for Oakland, but he did pretty well with Minnesota before that.

Who ya got? Throw some names up here.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:21 PM   #91
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Really? Holmes was the best running back in Texas, better than Ricky Williams. He had a 1,000 yards rushing in 1998.

I loved the guy.
I wouldn't go that far. Holmes might have prevented Ricky Williams from blowing up as a Freshman if he hadn't blown out his knee and missed the season, but the next year, which is the only year they both played for the team, Holmes backed up Williams which is probably a big part of the reason Holmes went undrafted.

It's hard to know which guy would have come out on top of a real competition by Priest's senior year absent injury, but Ricky Williams' Texas career was pretty outstanding and Priest's was pretty mediocre even before his injury (in fact, he was never their top ball carrier).
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:22 PM   #92
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:22 PM   #93
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Testeverde is textbook on what above average means, not good, not great, not average, not shitty, just above average. lol Like a B- if it was a grade. haha
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He threw for a ton of yards though in his career.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:58 PM   #94
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I wouldn't go that far. Holmes might have prevented Ricky Williams from blowing up as a Freshman if he hadn't blown out his knee and missed the season, but the next year, which is the only year they both played for the team, Holmes backed up Williams which is probably a big part of the reason Holmes went undrafted.

It's hard to know which guy would have come out on top of a real competition by Priest's senior year absent injury, but Ricky Williams' Texas career was pretty outstanding and Priest's was pretty mediocre even before his injury (in fact, he was never their top ball carrier).
But we all know how this got sorted out in the pros. Priest was the NFL's premiere back for 3+ seasons, and Ricky Williams drifted from team to team and had one real good season in Miami.

Holmes was a much better player imo and was on pace for a 2000 yard season before the injury, and I'm not trying to be a homer on this. I think most fans from most teams would agree.
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But we all know how this got sorted out in the pros. Priest was the NFL's premiere back for 3+ seasons, and Ricky Williams drifted from team to team and had one real good season in Miami.

Holmes was a much better player imo and was on pace for a 2000 yard season before the injury, and I'm not trying to be a homer on this. I think most fans from most teams would agree.
I don't disagree with what you're saying about their pro careers, but it doesn't really have anything to do with who the better back at Texas was.
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I haven't taken the time to read the entire thread but has anyone mentioned Jim Plunkett yet? He's the classic, modern day NFL bust to all-pro story.
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Okay, several previous Plunkett references. Carry on.
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