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Old 08-19-2013, 12:28 PM  
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The Baldwin/Jenkins thread makes me wonder this.

What are some examples of guys who were busts for the team that drafted them, and then blossomed when they went to a new team?

I'm sure that some exist, but right now I'm having some trouble coming up with a good example. In particular, let's concentrate on high draft picks, but if you have others who languished and then became stars, throw them out there.

Favre flourished with his second team, but I'm not sure he was a bust with his first team. He just didn't play for them.

Priest Holmes flourished with his second team, but he was undrafted and had a 1,000 yard season with his first team.

Randy Moss flourished with New England after busting for Oakland, but he did pretty well with Minnesota before that.

Who ya got? Throw some names up here.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:52 PM   #106
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:56 PM   #107
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:02 PM   #109
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Bettis was really good with the Rams if I remember right. I don't recall why/how he left that team. (Hmm, in looking at his stats, he had a fantastic rookie year and then ran in mud his whole second year and tailed off his third year before leaving. I just remembered his fantastic rookie year. The Rams wanted to move him to fullback and he instead requested and got a dirt-cheap trade.)
Bettis was battling injuries year 2 and 3 and STL thought he was done.

Some of the plays he was able to make year 1 and 2 in Pitt were just freakish. For a guy his size it didn't seem possible...
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:46 PM   #110
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Bettis was battling injuries year 2 and 3 and STL thought he was done.

Some of the plays he was able to make year 1 and 2 in Pitt were just freakish. For a guy his size it didn't seem possible...
you know what, Thomas Jones would be another one of those, as would Garrison Hearst.
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you know what, Thomas Jones would be another one of those, as would Garrison Hearst.
Jones was never that impressive. He was fed enough carries to top 1k.

Hearst was pretty good for the Cards it was just their team was so terrible no one noticed...
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It's one thing for a guy to have been a role player or not gotten on the field, and then broken out after being given PT on a new team.

There aren't a huge number of straight out busts who go on to be successful with another team, guys who were given all the opportunity and just failed.

You can't call Rich Gannon a bust, for example, he was a fourth round pick and never got on the field with the Vikings (hardly)
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WR is just one of those positions where you never know, that is, a guy can have all the talent in the world and not do crap in the NFL. Or, he can be a big time talent and have great success, but he's a head case.

Who was that first round WR taken about 10 years back by Detroit, Mike Williams? He sucked with Detroit and then came back and was ok for a while.
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Jones was never that impressive. He was fed enough carries to top 1k.

Hearst was pretty good for the Cards it was just their team was so terrible no one noticed...
yeah, I was mentioning hearst because he didn't do crap his first two years, then had a 1000 yard season his third year, but really blossomed with SF.
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yeah, I was mentioning hearst because he didn't do crap his first two years, then had a 1000 yard season his third year, but really blossomed with SF.
His 90+ yard run to end the game is still one of my favorite NFL moments.
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WR is just one of those positions where you never know, that is, a guy can have all the talent in the world and not do crap in the NFL. Or, he can be a big time talent and have great success, but he's a head case.

Who was that first round WR taken about 10 years back by Detroit, Mike Williams? He sucked with Detroit and then came back and was ok for a while.
he was okay for a season with the seahawks and then resorted back to sucking.

I guess it is kind of rare.

I guess Cedric Benson would be one.
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