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Old 08-19-2013, 12:28 PM  
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Changes of Scenery: Turning a Bust into a Star
The Baldwin/Jenkins thread makes me wonder this.

What are some examples of guys who were busts for the team that drafted them, and then blossomed when they went to a new team?

I'm sure that some exist, but right now I'm having some trouble coming up with a good example. In particular, let's concentrate on high draft picks, but if you have others who languished and then became stars, throw them out there.

Favre flourished with his second team, but I'm not sure he was a bust with his first team. He just didn't play for them.

Priest Holmes flourished with his second team, but he was undrafted and had a 1,000 yard season with his first team.

Randy Moss flourished with New England after busting for Oakland, but he did pretty well with Minnesota before that.

Who ya got? Throw some names up here.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:12 PM   #121
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His 90+ yard run to end the game is still one of my favorite NFL moments.
LOL the longest and slowest run in the history of football to beat the jets in week one of that season ahahahahahaha.

that run took forever.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:13 PM   #122
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A player can be a "bust" w/o being a first round pick. NFL history is full of examples. Unitas was a great player, but he wasn't considered to be much early in his NFL career. There are many guys who started slow or who were in the wrong system.
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There aren't many.

The whole "change of scenery" thing is bullshit IMO.
That's total crap. A change of situation helps or hinders plenty of players. Why do you think players who flop in their second contract at a different team clamor back and sign with their old team for cheaper?
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:14 PM   #124
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he was okay for a season with the seahawks and then resorted back to sucking.

I guess it is kind of rare.

I guess Cedric Benson would be one.
Detroit took 2 or 3 WRs with their first pick in 2-3 consecutive years, it was when Millen was the GM. The only WR that panned out was Calvin Johnson. The other one was Williams and then wasn't there another WR or was it just those 2?
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LOL the longest and slowest run in the history of football to beat the jets in week one of that season ahahahahahaha.

that run took forever.
Did you ever see Bernie Kosar run? That's a whole new definition of forever, man.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:16 PM   #126
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Detroit took 2 or 3 WRs with their first pick in 2-3 consecutive years, it was when Millen was the GM. The only WR that panned out was Calvin Johnson. The other one was Williams and then wasn't there another WR or was it just those 2?
There was indeed another WR selected.
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Detroit took 2 or 3 WRs with their first pick in 2-3 consecutive years, it was when Millen was the GM. The only WR that panned out was Calvin Johnson. The other one was Williams and then wasn't there another WR or was it just those 2?
Charles Rogers, then Mike Williams, then Calvin.

I actually REALLY liked Charles Rogers. Drugs, and injuries ruined his career. He had real potential though.
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Did you ever see Bernie Kosar run? That's a whole new definition of forever, man.
lol, yeah, but im not sure we ever had to watch him run 90 yards hahahaha.
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Charles Rogers, then Mike Williams, then Calvin.

I actually REALLY liked Charles Rogers. Drugs, and injuries ruined his career. He had real potential though.
Yah, Rogers was supposed to be great. Mike Williams was kind of a sketchy pick as he only had like one good year, but he was big. At least Megatron panned out for them...
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Yah, Rogers was supposed to be great. Mike Williams was kind of a sketchy pick as he only had like one good year, but he was big. At least Megatron panned out for them...
Well Mike Williams had to sit out that year because him and that dumbass Maurice Clarett tried to challenge the early eligibility rule. He got fat, and then sucked.

I would say Megatron worked out quite well hahaha.
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lol, yeah, but im not sure we ever had to watch him run 90 yards hahahaha.
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I wonder if Kerry Collins qualifies?

He was really good for Carolina and then flamed out with the infamous clip of him smoking a stogie as he left the cop shop.

After that he went to a SB and took the Titans to a 13-3 record...
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Hell of a quarterback in what amounted to minor league football. Fortunately he stuck around long enough to enjoy a couple of very solid pro seasons there toward the end.
Minor league football? I thought people stopped saying that about the AFL in the 60's, you know... right after the AFL beat the NFL in a superbowl?
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Minor league football? I thought people stopped saying that about the AFL in the 60's, you know... right after the AFL beat the NFL in a superbowl?
After the GB dynasty was over the AFC pretty much owned the SB for over a decade...
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