Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 79

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

Kaepernick · 08-19-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Would you care explain why a Tom Brady led offense put up LESS points than an Alex Smith led offense one game later?

Because he didn't have Frank Gore or a rushing attack.

Because Brady's defense couldn't get Eli off the field.

NJChiefsFan · 08-19-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

And completed only 1 pass to a WR all game.

It is clear to anyone that watched that game that if Alex Smith had done anything at all, the 9ers win that game. He had plenty of chances. I fully admit that Smith did more against the Saints than I thought he ever could. They were a terrible defense but that was still clutch. That game against the Giants however was more around what I think of when I think of Smith.

Kaepernick · 08-19-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

It is clear to anyone that watched that game that if Alex Smith had done anything at all, the 9ers win that game. He had plenty of chances. I fully admit that Smith did more against the Saints than I thought he ever could. They were a terrible defense but that was still clutch. That game against the Giants however was more around what I think of when I think of Smith.

It is clear to anyone but an Alexsexual that Alex underperformed in the NFCC game. Several 49ers players made mistakes or blew plays, but Alex is clearly among them.

I have always hated Eli for being a baby and refusing to go to the Chargers, like I hated Elway for the same thing.

Eli took a hellacious beating, yet came up clutch at least twice in the 2011 NFCC game. I have nothing but respect for him now.

Here are some pictures of the human lawn dart during that game ===>

SanDiego49er · 08-19-2013, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Or the big play.

He will make some big plays. But not as many as some gunslingers because he is risk averse. Keeping the turnover ratio in the + for you is a proven way to win though.

Marcellus · 08-19-2013, 06:10 AM

This thread is hilarious.

Geno cant beat out out butt fumble and Clay is flipping his script now to "hope".

Alex Smith gets zero credit for the games he has won, the FG kicker moved the ball and Gore's 1200 yards and 8 TD's were more important than Smith's contributions.(1200 yards is an amazing total for a RB over 16 games)

Brady lost to the Giants because he didn't have a rushing attack, Alex smith sucks because he has to have a rushing attack.

Do you guys even read the stuff you post?

ViperVisor · 08-19-2013, 07:03 AM

Eli Manning had 58 pass attempts that game.

12 QB hits and 6 Sacks. That's only a little high based on his attempts. The footing had to suck for a pass rush in that weather and the refs appeared to help too with 1 holding call and it was a run.

And of course a game like this is Alex Smith's fault when he attempted only 24 passes.
The Ravens tied a franchise record with 9 sacks against the 49ers Thursday night. Five of the Ravens' sacks came when they sent 5 or more pass rushers. Eight of the Ravens' 9 sacks also came with 5 or more defensive backs on the field.
Also 12 QB hits by the Ravens.

Eli's 316 Yards in that game? WOW

His YPA was the same as 2011 Blaine Gabbert.

His yards per completion was just ahead of 2011 Christian Ponder.

Eli Manning didn't miss any chances to make plays with his 26 incompletions? He was lucky 1 or 2 weren't INTs.

And the Giants punter didn't have 12 punts.

The conditions for offense was bad. The weather was bad and the defenses were on their A games.

Both QBs did the bare minimum.

The Giants were 22% likely to win as they were punting in the 4th, It glances off a leg. They recover and are 46% likely to win.
2nd fumble spikes from 52% to 95%.

Of the four plays that increased New York’s win probability the most, Manning was a part of zero. Of the eight plays that decreased New York’s win probability the most, Manning was a part of six.

Hammock Parties · 08-22-2013, 07:37 PM

Geno getting all the 1st team reps Saturday.

Jets want him to win the job.

Eleazar · 08-22-2013, 07:38 PM

This thread is just one big attention whore, it would be best if we ignored the whole thing.

Hammock Parties · 08-22-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

This thread is just one big attention whore, it would be best if we ignored the whole thing.

Please.

Tracking our game manager retread vs the potential franchise QB we had a chance to pick is a very worthwhile endeavor.

Sandy Vagina · 08-22-2013, 07:44 PM

It just screams BUTTHURT and ANAL LEAKAGE.

Hammock Parties · 08-22-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

It just screams BUTTHURT and ANAL LEAKAGE.

Absolutely.

The point of the thread is to find out how warranted our collective butthurt will be.

splatbass · 08-22-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

Please.

Tracking our game manager retread vs the potential franchise QB we had a chance to pick is a very worthwhile endeavor.

EVERYBODY had a chance to pick him, and EVERYBODY passed in the first round.

It would have been stupid to take him at 1.1. But you would have done it.

**SAUTO** · 08-22-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

EVERYBODY had a chance to pick him, and EVERYBODY passed in the first round.

It would have been stupid to take him at 1.1. But you would have done it.

this is a tired argument.

Teams are right quite often. But they are wrong pretty often too.

the story hasn't been written yet.
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splatbass · 08-22-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

this is a tired argument.

Teams are right quite often. But they are wrong pretty often too.

the story hasn't been written yet.
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32 teams out of 32 disagree with you and Clay.

Hell, they haven't even decided to name him the starter yet on a team with Mark Sanchez as the only competition.

Hammock Parties · 08-22-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

32 teams out of 32 disagree with you and Clay.

Hell, they haven't even decided to name him the starter yet on a team with Mark Sanchez as the only competition.

I don't care.

I formed an opinion on this talented young man long before the draft.

Post-RGIII/Luck draft climate doesn't affect me, only scared NFL teams.

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $820478	Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season. Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him. So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period? Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote Alex: 11 wins Geno: 8 wins Last edited by Hammock Parties; 12-30-2013 at 02:56 AM..
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08-19-2013, 06:10 AM	#1175
Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $-477338	This thread is hilarious. Geno cant beat out out butt fumble and Clay is flipping his script now to "hope". Alex Smith gets zero credit for the games he has won, the FG kicker moved the ball and Gore's 1200 yards and 8 TD's were more important than Smith's contributions.(1200 yards is an amazing total for a RB over 16 games) Brady lost to the Giants because he didn't have a rushing attack, Alex smith sucks because he has to have a rushing attack. Do you guys even read the stuff you post?
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08-19-2013, 07:03 AM	#1176
ViperVisor Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10019798	Eli Manning had 58 pass attempts that game. 12 QB hits and 6 Sacks. That's only a little high based on his attempts. The footing had to suck for a pass rush in that weather and the refs appeared to help too with 1 holding call and it was a run. And of course a game like this is Alex Smith's fault when he attempted only 24 passes. The Ravens tied a franchise record with 9 sacks against the 49ers Thursday night. Five of the Ravens' sacks came when they sent 5 or more pass rushers. Eight of the Ravens' 9 sacks also came with 5 or more defensive backs on the field. Also 12 QB hits by the Ravens. Eli's 316 Yards in that game? WOW His YPA was the same as 2011 Blaine Gabbert. His yards per completion was just ahead of 2011 Christian Ponder. Eli Manning didn't miss any chances to make plays with his 26 incompletions? He was lucky 1 or 2 weren't INTs. And the Giants punter didn't have 12 punts. The conditions for offense was bad. The weather was bad and the defenses were on their A games. Both QBs did the bare minimum. The Giants were 22% likely to win as they were punting in the 4th, It glances off a leg. They recover and are 46% likely to win. 2nd fumble spikes from 52% to 95%. Of the four plays that increased New York’s win probability the most, Manning was a part of zero. Of the eight plays that decreased New York’s win probability the most, Manning was a part of six. Last edited by ViperVisor; 08-19-2013 at 07:36 AM..
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