Chiefs Late night bullshit: the 2010 draft class. - Page 2

Direckshun · 08-23-2013, 01:32 AM

It's three years later.

It's time to assess the talent this team brought in three years ago in the 2010 draft, since conventional wisdom says you need three years to know what you've got.

The draft:

1. S Eric Berry
2. RB/WR Dexter McCluster
2. CB Javier Arenas
3. OG Jon Asamoah
3. TE Tony Moeaki
5. S Kendrick Lewis
5. OLB Cameron Sheffield

notable UDFA: none

It was the famous "team captain" draft, where every single player was a team captain.

FD · 08-23-2013, 09:44 AM

I do recall the howls of outrage that we didn't draft Sergio Kindle with that pick.

Well, we can pick him up off the street now if we so desire.

**The Franchise** · 08-23-2013, 09:47 AM

I wanted Jimmy Clausen in the 2nd. I'll shut up now.

keg in kc · 08-23-2013, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I wanted Jimmy Clausen in the 2nd. I'll shut up now.

A lot of us did.

But a lot of us always want guys who bust. That's the nature of the draft.

I remember the year I was pissed that we drafted Ryan Sims when Wendell Bryant was still on the board.

**Rain Man** · 08-23-2013, 09:55 AM

Below is my draft that year in our Alternate Reality 1 game. I hate you people for talking me into Clausen, but that's a done deal.

I think I like my draft better than the Chiefs' draft. Spiller is Spiller, Carrington is now a starting DE, Jones is regarded as one of the better SS in the league, I've still got Lewis at FS, Watson is currently listed as a starter at OLB, and all the other guys are at least still clinging to roster spots.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post6837335

1st - Pick 5 - RB C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Do we need him? No. But we think he's a playmaker, and we want playmakers on this team.

2nd - Pick 36 - QB Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) Yeah, even though we have Sanchez. We believe in depth and competition at key positions.

3rd - Pick 68 - DE Alex Carrington (Bills). We're shifting to a 4-3 and he can man the left side.

4th - Pick 102 - OT Bruce Campbell (Raiders) We need help at tackle and he's available.

5th - Pick 136 - FS Kendrick Lewis (Chiefs) Like the Chiefs pick, so we'll take him.

5th - Pick 142 - SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Looking for a little strong safety help, too.

6th - Pick 173 - WR Dezmon Brisco (Bengals) Any help we can get at WR would be appreciated.

7th - Pick 212 - LB Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers). Hope he can develop into a full-time LB

Deberg_1990 · 08-23-2013, 10:29 AM

These are fun to do, I get that. But the reality is every team misses and you can't possibly expect every pick to become a star. If you can get 2 or 3 productive players from a draft you are doing good. McCluster isn't a star, but he's been productive all things considered. Who would we have drafted there instead of him? I guess Gronkowski, but that's about it.
Posted via Mobile Device

Molitoth · 08-23-2013, 10:39 AM

Jimmy Clausen could've been a totally different QB at a different franchise, especially under Weis.

That said, he would've been a Chief and sucked anyway.

**The Franchise** · 08-23-2013, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Jimmy Clausen could've been a totally different QB at a different franchise, especially under Weis.

That said, he would've been a Chief and sucked anyway.

Don't get me started on the subject.....I'll just end up getting shit on.

patteeu · 08-23-2013, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I wanted Sean Lee or Daryl Washington with the two.

Lee is the better choice.

Me too. If we'd have taken Lee instead of Javier Arenas, I'd give this draft an A-. As it is, I'd give it a B because almost all of these guys can play in the NFL and a couple of them are pretty good to really good starters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Below is my draft that year in our Alternate Reality 1 game. I hate you people for talking me into Clausen, but that's a done deal.

Here's my draft from Alternate Reality Game 1:

1. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2a. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR, Ole Miss
2b. Sean Lee, LB, Penn State
3. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
4. Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA
5a. Kendrick Lewis, S, Ole Miss
5b. Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
5c. David Reed, WR, Utah

Instead of a talented, but oft-injured, TE and a midget nickle back, I've got a starting CB in Verner and a pretty solid LB in Lee. Tennant and Reed are apparently garbage though.

Reshad Jones was a good one!

**Mav** · 08-23-2013, 10:52 AM

as it was though, it wasn't a horrible draft.

**Rain Man** · 08-23-2013, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Reshad Jones was a good one!

As was Sean Lee. We draft pro bowlers in Alternate Reality 1.

**Mav** · 08-23-2013, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

As was Sean Lee. We draft pro bowlers in Alternate Reality 1.

My brother in law, a dallas fan, called me bitching out Jerry Jones about that pick.

Shakes head. I was like do you even know who sean lee is?

**RealSNR** · 08-23-2013, 12:06 PM

You can make a strong case for the 2011 draft class being better than 2010.

1. Jon Baldwin- BUST
2. Rod Hudson- Starter, still developing
3. Allen Bailey- Depth, kind of shitty
3. Justin Houston- Mega orgasm awesome ****ing pick
4. Jalil Brown- Depth, kind of shitty
5. Ricky Stanzi- Bust, but is impressive at growing wigs for cancer patients
5. Gabe Miller- Bust, but is somehow doing stuff with another team (Bears)
6. Jerrell Powe- Depth, not terrible
7. Shane Bannan- Bust, giant douchebag fratbro

vs.

1. Eric Berry- Mega orgasm awesome ****ing pick
2. Dexter McCluster- Depth, not terrible but also not that great
2. Javier Arenas- Was okay depth, now that he's gone he's a bust
3. Jon Asamoah- Starter, still developing
3. Tony Moeaki- Depth, not terrible
5. Kendrick Lewis- Starting but should be depth, kind of shitty
5. Cameron Sheffield- Bust, might have been different had he not gotten nearly paralyzed

Tallying up the not bust players, would you rather have:
Hudson, Houston, Powe, Bailey, Brown

or

Berry, McCluster, Asamoah, Moeaki, Lewis

I think Hudson and Asamoah cancel each other out. Same with Powe and Moeaki. Lewis and McCluster are much better to have than Bailey and Brown.

Where it gets close is the Justin Houston pick. What a homerun that was. Not to take anything away from Berry, but to take a passrushing stud in a draft is pretty damn important and improves your team more than any other position except for QB.

In the end, I'd still rather have the 2010 draft I think, but not by much at all. Houston is what makes all the difference.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-23-2013, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

You can make a strong case for the 2011 draft class being better than 2010.

The difference maker for me is that the 2010 draft pulled in lots of really good depth guys, most of whom could start (even if they could be upgraded). Almost every player is still on the team in a valuable role. 2011 was complete shit except for one outstanding pick. It was an extremely conservative draft, but it's by far Pioli's best. Which is sad, because by any other team's standards, this is a pretty average draft.

**RealSNR** · 08-23-2013, 12:40 PM

Why are you all of a sudden putting the quotes at the bottom of the post?

Stop it. It's annoying.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-23-2013, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Why are you all of a sudden putting the quotes at the bottom of the post?

Stop it. It's annoying.

Always done that. Didn't realize it was annoying.

08-23-2013, 01:32 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Late night bullshit: the 2010 draft class. It's three years later. It's time to assess the talent this team brought in three years ago in the 2010 draft, since conventional wisdom says you need three years to know what you've got. The draft: 1. S Eric Berry 2. RB/WR Dexter McCluster 2. CB Javier Arenas 3. OG Jon Asamoah 3. TE Tony Moeaki 5. S Kendrick Lewis 5. OLB Cameron Sheffield notable UDFA: none It was the famous "team captain" draft, where every single player was a team captain.
Posts: 59,693

08-23-2013, 09:44 AM	#16
FD Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Casino cash: $9372813	I do recall the howls of outrage that we didn't draft Sergio Kindle with that pick. Well, we can pick him up off the street now if we so desire.
Posts: 4,440

08-23-2013, 09:47 AM	#17
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	I wanted Jimmy Clausen in the 2nd. I'll shut up now.
Posts: 92,316

08-23-2013, 09:55 AM	#19
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-682449 VARSITY	Below is my draft that year in our Alternate Reality 1 game. I hate you people for talking me into Clausen, but that's a done deal. I think I like my draft better than the Chiefs' draft. Spiller is Spiller, Carrington is now a starting DE, Jones is regarded as one of the better SS in the league, I've still got Lewis at FS, Watson is currently listed as a starter at OLB, and all the other guys are at least still clinging to roster spots. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...er#post6837335 1st - Pick 5 - RB C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Do we need him? No. But we think he's a playmaker, and we want playmakers on this team. 2nd - Pick 36 - QB Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) Yeah, even though we have Sanchez. We believe in depth and competition at key positions. 3rd - Pick 68 - DE Alex Carrington (Bills). We're shifting to a 4-3 and he can man the left side. 4th - Pick 102 - OT Bruce Campbell (Raiders) We need help at tackle and he's available. 5th - Pick 136 - FS Kendrick Lewis (Chiefs) Like the Chiefs pick, so we'll take him. 5th - Pick 142 - SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Looking for a little strong safety help, too. 6th - Pick 173 - WR Dezmon Brisco (Bengals) Any help we can get at WR would be appreciated. 7th - Pick 212 - LB Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers). Hope he can develop into a full-time LB __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
Posts: 145,512

08-23-2013, 10:29 AM	#20
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $104454	These are fun to do, I get that. But the reality is every team misses and you can't possibly expect every pick to become a star. If you can get 2 or 3 productive players from a draft you are doing good. McCluster isn't a star, but he's been productive all things considered. Who would we have drafted there instead of him? I guess Gronkowski, but that's about it. Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 68,677

08-23-2013, 10:39 AM	#21
Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $164969	Jimmy Clausen could've been a totally different QB at a different franchise, especially under Weis. That said, he would've been a Chief and sucked anyway.
Posts: 20,299

08-23-2013, 10:52 AM	#24
Mav XBOX GT MAVS ACE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wisconsin Casino cash: $10019303	as it was though, it wasn't a horrible draft. __________________ Resident Browns fan I’m not here to argue about Alex Smith. Fastest Ignore user on CP
Posts: 18,683

08-23-2013, 12:06 PM	#27
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1534792	You can make a strong case for the 2011 draft class being better than 2010. 1. Jon Baldwin- BUST 2. Rod Hudson- Starter, still developing 3. Allen Bailey- Depth, kind of shitty 3. Justin Houston- Mega orgasm awesome **ing pick 4. Jalil Brown- Depth, kind of shitty 5. Ricky Stanzi- Bust, but is impressive at growing wigs for cancer patients 5. Gabe Miller- Bust, but is somehow doing stuff with another team (Bears) 6. Jerrell Powe- Depth, not terrible 7. Shane Bannan- Bust, giant douchebag fratbro vs. 1. Eric Berry- Mega orgasm awesome **ing pick 2. Dexter McCluster- Depth, not terrible but also not that great 2. Javier Arenas- Was okay depth, now that he's gone he's a bust 3. Jon Asamoah- Starter, still developing 3. Tony Moeaki- Depth, not terrible 5. Kendrick Lewis- Starting but should be depth, kind of shitty 5. Cameron Sheffield- Bust, might have been different had he not gotten nearly paralyzed Tallying up the not bust players, would you rather have: Hudson, Houston, Powe, Bailey, Brown or Berry, McCluster, Asamoah, Moeaki, Lewis I think Hudson and Asamoah cancel each other out. Same with Powe and Moeaki. Lewis and McCluster are much better to have than Bailey and Brown. Where it gets close is the Justin Houston pick. What a homerun that was. Not to take anything away from Berry, but to take a passrushing stud in a draft is pretty damn important and improves your team more than any other position except for QB. In the end, I'd still rather have the 2010 draft I think, but not by much at all. Houston is what makes all the difference.
Posts: 93,431

08-23-2013, 12:40 PM	#29
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1534792	Why are you all of a sudden putting the quotes at the bottom of the post? Stop it. It's annoying.
Posts: 93,431