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Old 11-06-2012, 10:06 PM  
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Andy Reid
Get him Clark.

Bring in the walrus!

But seriously, he's getting the shaft in Philly. He's the best coach of the realistic options who proven the most.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:43 PM   #151
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In regards to picks, what does it matter if the pick is justified at the time? If he produces and becomes a good player, what does that matter?
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:54 PM   #152
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In regards to picks, what does it matter if the pick is justified at the time? If he produces and becomes a good player, what does that matter?
It's all about risk to reward. Blue chip guys rarely bust where unknown quantities bust far more often.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:57 PM   #153
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It's all about risk to reward. Blue chip guys rarely bust where unknown quantities bust far more often.
Obviously that's a given.

But like I said, if a guy turns out to be a great player, it shouldn't matter what he was or wasn't when he was picked.

Like Poe. He was a project there, but if he turns into a force up front, does it matter that he was a reach 2 years ago?
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:07 PM   #154
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Obviously that's a given.

But like I said, if a guy turns out to be a great player, it shouldn't matter what he was or wasn't when he was picked.

Like Poe. He was a project there, but if he turns into a force up front, does it matter that he was a reach 2 years ago?
That's what confused me.

Berry and Jackson and Fisher were conservative picks. Poe was a gamble, and that's why I loved the pick. I think it's hypocritical for people to knock the Poe pick, then question why the Chiefs didn't pick Geno Smith.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:21 PM   #155
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Even if Poe reaches his potential, DTs only impact 5% of a football game...if Tanehill reaches his upside, he will impact 75% of every game he plays.

I'd be very excited if we had a Tanehill/Reid combo right now.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:39 PM   #156
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Even if Poe reaches his potential, DTs only impact 5% of a football game...if Tanehill reaches his upside, he will impact 75% of every game he plays.

I'd be very excited if we had a Tanehill/Reid combo right now.
You and I were in the minority of wanting to draft the kid.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:58 PM   #157
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Let's say we had traded up To 6 and given up the same compensation to do so as Dallas did (even though we owned slot 11 and Dallas owned slot 14....meaning we would have probably had to give up LESS to move up)

Who here wouldn't trade Dontari Poe and Jeff Allen for Ryan Tanehill?

Id make that trade in a New York minute.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:59 PM   #158
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But yeah, he wasn't good enough.
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I wanted Tannehil bad. Knew he'd go to Miami though.
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Let's say we had traded up To 6 and given up the same compensation to do so as Dallas did (even though we owned slot 11 and Dallas owned slot 14....meaning we would have probably had to give up LESS to move up)

Who here wouldn't trade Dontari Poe and Jeff Allen for Ryan Tanehill?

Id make that trade in a New York minute.
NOW they would, but back then it was too much.

Just like Pioli wanted a do-over for not drafting Dalton... AFTER Dalton leads the Bengals to the playoffs his first two years in the league and Pioli is facing losing his job to the angry KC mob.
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I wanted Tannehil bad. Knew he'd go to Miami though.
Yep exactly. I was still pissed when they drafted him though.
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Even if Poe reaches his potential, DTs only impact 5% of a football game...if Tanehill reaches his upside, he will impact 75% of every game he plays.

I'd be very excited if we had a Tanehill/Reid combo right now.
5%? That's not right. A dominant defensive tackle can control much more than that. Obviously a qb would be more, but a dominant pass rusher from the defensive tackle position is pretty awesome and important.

I wasn't as high on tannehill simple because I didn't watch a whole lot of him, I just didn't know much about him.
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Even if Poe reaches his potential, DTs only impact 5% of a football game...if Tanehill reaches his upside, he will impact 75% of every game he plays.

I'd be very excited if we had a Tanehill/Reid combo right now.
That's a ridiculous comment. Nose Tackles are the heart of any 3-4 defense and we've said that a million times. And Poe isn't even a traditional Nose Tackle. He's a Nose Tackle with potential to one day play multiple techniques, which is crucial in the modern 3-4. If he becomes a great Nose Tackle, this pick is an absolute steal and you know it.

We all know QB is important, but let's not start this tirade against any pick that isn't a QB. Yeah, drafting offensive linemen, 5-techs, safeties, and running backs are safe picks at 1.1. Drafting a raw talent like Poe is exactly the kind of boom/bust pick we should ahve been making more of. I think it's silly to be critical of the pick, especially if the negative commentary was that he shouldn't have been picked because he was raw.
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5%? That's not right. A dominant defensive tackle can control much more than that. Obviously a qb would be more, but a dominant pass rusher from the defensive tackle position is pretty awesome and important.

I wasn't as high on tannehill simple because I didn't watch a whole lot of him, I just didn't know much about him.
A little premature for people to get hyped up about Tannehill. He had a 12/13 TD/INT ratio last year. What I saw is a guy with good not elite arm strength. Good but not even close to elite athleticism. And a guy with really small hands, which is going to be a problem in cold weather and messy conditions.

I'm not as sold on Tannehill as others. I think he has upside to be a middle-of-the-road QB at best. I guess that's an upgrade, but I don't think he has franchise QB written all over him.
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A little premature for people to get hyped up about Tannehill. He had a 12/13 TD/INT ratio last year. What I saw is a guy with good not elite arm strength. Good but not even close to elite athleticism. And a guy with really small hands, which is going to be a problem in cold weather and messy conditions.

I'm not as sold on Tannehill as others. I think he has upside to be a middle-of-the-road QB at best. I guess that's an upgrade, but I don't think he has franchise QB written all over him.
Was thinking this as well. There were some games and moments when I felt this guy can develop into a good one. Other times, he looked like a mess. 58 completion %... 5 games last season at a 50 or less passer rating.. 9 games under a 75... 25 years old already..

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