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Old 08-30-2013, 06:54 AM  
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Notes on Chiefs Preseason

Offense
  • I took a lot of shit last week for saying Chase Daniel was "terrible." That language was a tad strong, but last game showed why. I want more from a QB who gets paid $3M/year to be a reliable veteran.
  • Tyler Bray had an effective preseason. But let's not get carried away. He needs time (better footwork, better decision making, learn to handle a pass rush) and his maturity is trending up, but I sure hope he can keep that up. Because it's clear he can make throws no QB has made in years. Overall really liked what I saw from him.
  • Best WR corps in years. Solid enough #2 in Avery. Great potential from #3-5 (Hemingway in the slot. McCluster and Wylie... be great to make them earn a spot as an underneath guy, and Jenkins earn his spot as a stretch the field guy
  • The offensive line isn't where you hoped it would be. Hudson will be a liability, Fisher is probably going to take some lumps early on. Our Guard play is adequate at best.
  • Knile Davis is a solid #2 option. I wish he could also play bigger, but with his speed, he doesn't always have to. He's a guy who needs clean blocking and running lanes. But if he gets to top speed, he's very effective
  • Reid loves to use tight ends and fullbacks. I don't think he'll be excited with what he has. I wasn't impressed with Sherman or Kelce. Fasano's a nice TE, but I'd rather him be a blocker turned safety valve
  • Alex Smith... is better than his critics say but worse than his fan boys say. He was what he thought he was. Mostly accurate QB in the short/intermediate game and tremendous rollout ability. The downside... he still doesn't throw his receivers open, tends to stare at his primary read, and he missed WAY too many hot routes.
  • Our special teams is going to be our offense's best friend.

Defense
  • Said it before, I'll say it again. People understate how much Dorsey's marketing efforts to restore the roar at Arrowhead will improve our defense
  • Defense is much better. Finally, a d-coordinator who will create pressure and will mix up formations. We saw a lot of exotic looks early on already
  • Poe and Jackson were beastly against the run. Poe flashed upside in the passing game, Jackson is a complete disaster there. Bailey, on the other hand, needs to be more consistent in the run game but can actually drive his blockers in the pass rush. He needs to get more snaps.
  • Dorsey brought in good LBs for cheap. Akeem Jordan is better than anyone we've had in years but I hope Nico Johnson starts soon. Also give Dorsey credit for getting tremendous safety depth for cheap. Demps and Abdullah were great cheap adds
  • Eric Berry is going to be a weapon. Blitzing, playing LB, playing center field... he'll play everywhere.
  • Kendrick Lewis is going to be a huge liability and I worry he'll give up big plays. We need speed back there.
  • Speaking of big plays, we saw flashes of a defense that can be too aggressive at times. We're going to shut down running games, but if any back squeaks by... trouble. I have a bad feeling we're also going to bite hard on playactions and bootlegs, and at times overpursue a ballcarrier.
  • Our CB depth is disastrous. If any of our CBs are injured, we're screwed. Sadly, our Safeties are handling a lot of Nickel and Dime responsibilities that should be handled by CBs
  • I like Sutton's press coverage. Which means, the Chiefs HAVE to put pressure on the QB. Sean Smith is a better pickup than he gets credit for being.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:32 AM   #31
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As far as guys fighting for positions. I really liked what i saw out of Bradley McDougald and Abdullah as Safeties. Jalil Brown looked to improve as the preseason went along, as well... Was impressed by Catapano.
I like McDougald. I think he gets put on practice squad, just because they're overloaded with guys at Safety. I actually don't think Brown is nearly as bad as some people have claimed in the past.

Abdullah, I thought, had an outstanding preseason. And I really wish he was in line to replace Kendrick Lewis, even though I wish we had someone speedier than both of them.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:33 AM   #32
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He had one solid return. The rest of them were Dante Hall wannabe returns.

Move along. Nothing to see here.
So Wylie or dex are better?
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:36 AM   #33
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Was impressed by Catapano.
Definitely. Mike C. looked really good out there.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:40 AM   #34
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So Wylie or dex are better?
Wylie was an excellent punt returner in college. More importantly, the only thing Hammond can do is return punts. That's it. Not worth wasting a spot on a guy like that unless he's Devin Hester.

I'd rather Wylie or Dex because they'll contribute to this team beyond punt returns.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:42 AM   #35
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Wylie was an excellent punt returner in college. More importantly, the only thing Hammond can do is return punts. That's it. Not worth wasting a spot on a guy like that unless he's Devin Hester.

I'd rather Wylie or Dex because they'll contribute to this team beyond punt returns.
Do you honestly believe that Wylie will have any contribution to this team other than a returner?

He's not going to be playing on the offense unless there are a few injuries. If he makes the team he'll be the 5th or 6th WR, AKA designated to Special Teams.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:44 AM   #36
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Do you honestly believe that Wylie will have any contribution to this team other than a returner?

He's not going to be playing on the offense unless there are a few injuries. If he makes the team he'll be the 5th or 6th WR, AKA designated to Special Teams.
Yes, he's going to be a gunner, and he's going to be damn good at it. Same reason Jalil Brown is a lock for this roster.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:50 AM   #37
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So Wylie or dex are better?
I don't see how you can take from one measly return that they are worse than Hammond.

Wylie and Dex have both had long returns just like the one Hammond got last night. Hammond's nothing special, and is 1/10th the receiver that those other two guys are.

He can't be expected to reasonably contribute on offense. Put him on the practice squad if you want, but he should NOT go on the 53 man roster. There are so many more worthy candidates for the final roster than him.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:03 AM   #38
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The team still has lots of questions but the most positive thing to take away from this pre season is that the team looks muuuuuccccch better coached.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:49 AM   #39
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Was it Hammond Jr. that muffed that punt early in the game last night? I said "Well that guy just got himself cut". He made some plays after that though, so who knows?
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Offense - average
Defense - average.

that's my take.
Defense gave up the fewest point in the AFC in Preseason. They played lights out last night and except for a few big plays and some field goals we pretty awesome.

Special teams- Dustin nailing 70 yard punts, Succop-Perfect, Big returns, FG block- just amazing what a good coach can do.

Offense- can't seem to pick up a blitz and getting man handled off the line. Chase took 11 sacks in roughly 5 quarters? 2 straight last night in the red zone.

First back to back preseason wins since 2006.
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I don't think it would be unrealistic to expect him to be the no 2 in year 2 and to take over for Smith in year 3...
I bet you that time line is in Andy Reids frame of thinking as well......
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Defense gave up the fewest point in the AFC in Preseason. They played lights out last night and except for a few big plays and some field goals we pretty awesome.

Special teams- Dustin nailing 70 yard punts, Succop-Perfect, Big returns, FG block- just amazing what a good coach can do.

Offense- can't seem to pick up a blitz and getting man handled off the line. Chase took 11 sacks in roughly 5 quarters? 2 straight last night in the red zone.

First back to back preseason wins since 2006.
That's pretty good considering the field position the Chiefs started with in the first half of the steeler game. Considering the 4th and short that wasn't picked up and the running out of the end zone repeatedly and getting stopped at the 10-15.

That's damn impressive.
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I like McDougald. I think he gets put on practice squad, just because they're overloaded with guys at Safety. I actually don't think Brown is nearly as bad as some people have claimed in the past.

Abdullah, I thought, had an outstanding preseason. And I really wish he was in line to replace Kendrick Lewis, even though I wish we had someone speedier than both of them.
Abdullah had a lot of Big plays. Lewis should be cut. Brokieoki- cut Wylie-cut-didn't show much at all and is hurt again.

I hope Zombo makes the team- had an INT last night and was all around the ball again. Martin with the sack/strip/fumble recovery-might have made the team with that. Harris-cut-slow and can't catch, needs to go back to basketball. Daniels-Cut-we can get much batter off the waiver wire-Brady Quit was better and took less sacks.
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I bet you that time line is in Andy Reids frame of thinking as well......
I seriously doubt it.

I'm pretty sure he's looking at Alex Smith as a 5 year minimum to 8 year maximum type of guy.

Bray was an UDFA that needs some serious work on his technical skills before he can ever be considered a starting NFL level QB. Now, working with Reid and behind Smith, who is very sound technically, is a good thing for Bray, but he was not brought in to be starter in three years. No way, no how.
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I seriously doubt it.

I'm pretty sure he's looking at Alex Smith as a 5 year minimum to 8 year maximum type of guy.

Bray was an UDFA that needs some serious work on his technical skills before he can ever be considered a starting NFL level QB. Now, working with Reid and behind Smith, who is very sound technically, is a good thing for Bray, but he was not brought in to be starter in three years. No way, no how.
If I could go onto the forum, I could show you a post that I made almost EXACTLY LIKE YOURS, just replace the name Bray, with Kaepernick..

And Bray looked better in his first pre season than Kaepernick did.

The support around Bray is going to speed his development right along. It would not shock me in the least if Alex Smith struggles in his two years here that Bray could be the qb in 2015.

Not one bit. And im the biggest Alex Smith guy here. But I understand the business, and I understand Andy Reid, and John Dorsey. They have both proven that they will ship out a qb if he isn't cutting it.

Brian Brohm, Brett Favre, Donovan McNabb, Kevin Kolb.

I love Alex Smith......but if Bray becomes a true professional, works hard, hits the books, hits the film takes the coaching, he is a special special kid.

Now im crushing on two qbs. Gotta write to dear abbey I guess.
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