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Old 08-24-2013, 08:03 PM  
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:51 PM   #181
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Total tangent, but NDSU might be about to beat Kansas State. This is insane.
Holy shit. NDSU TD with under 30 to go.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:53 PM   #182
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If we had Aaron Rodgers and not Alex Smith, you consider trading Bray. We need to think in terms of coaching up Bray so he can take over in 3-4 years, not what we can get for him right now. We aren't in a position to trade away potential like that. We are in a position to groom it. And we should.
I agree, I'm all for that.

But the question was would you take a 3rd rounder for Bray, right now.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:53 PM   #183
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If we had Aaron Rodgers and not Alex Smith, you consider trading Bray. We need to think in terms of coaching up Bray so he can take over in 3-4 years, not what we can get for him right now. We aren't in a position to trade away potential like that. We are in a position to groom it. And we should.
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I agree, I'm all for that.

But the question was would you take a 3rd rounder for Bray, right now.
Of course not. I explained why.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:55 PM   #185
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I've liked Bray as a prospect much better than Smith from the get go. Bray has virtually an unlimited upside. It's up to him and the coaches to realize his potential.

The most amazing part about all of this is that he's only 21 years old. 21! The guy has shown flashes in preaseason so there's no reason to believe that he won't be at least a serviceable backup for a decade at minimum.

All he has to do is stay focused and grounded. If he can do that, the sky's the limit.
If he went to a school with ANY coaching at all, AND I MEAN ANY COACHING, he is a first rounder.
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If he went to a school with ANY coaching at all, AND I MEAN ANY COACHING, he is a first rounder.
Udfa to first rounder? Because of the coach?
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I agree, I'm all for that.

But the question was would you take a 3rd rounder for Bray, right now.
We'll wait and see how he does in training camp coming up and the preseason games yesteryear.
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Of course not. I explained why.
Even with the chances of an udfa becoming anything so low?
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Udfa to first rounder? Because of the coach?
Yes. He was so highly touted out of High School, and he was recruited by Lane Kiffin, who then bailed on him. And Dooley didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

His college coaching was pretty much non existent. Its amazing that he had two guys off his team drafted in the first 34 players if you think about it.

Here is his recruiting profile from College.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ler-Bray-94999
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Wouldn't take a 3rd rounder basically for free, yet are totally enraged by giving up an all important 3rd round pick for Alex smith?
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Yes. He was so highly touted out of High School, and he was recruited by Lane Kiffin, who then bailed on him. And Dooley didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

His college coaching was pretty much non existent. Its amazing that he had two guys off his team drafted in the first 34 players if you think about it.
So how did those guys get to be drafted there? Coaches not coach them?
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Even with the chances of an udfa becoming anything so low?
You don't trade away something you can't replace. We don't have another developmental quarterback. And we aren't going to find one out there that has his kind of passing tools. It wouldn't be a smart move. If we had a glut at the position, then maybe. We don't....

(Down the road he also has the potential to be worth much, much more than a 3rd, but that's another discussion.)
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Wouldn't take a 3rd rounder basically for free, yet are totally enraged by giving up an all important 3rd round pick for Alex smith?
Try two 2nd round picks.
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You don't trade away something you can't replace. We don't have another developmental quarterback. And we aren't going to find one out there that has his kind of passing tools. It wouldn't be a smart move. If we had a glut at the position, then maybe. We don't....

(Down the road he also has the potential to be worth much, much more than a 3rd, but that's another discussion.)
So his kind of passing tools are so irreplaceable, that he went undrafted?

If his tools are that great, what the hell did this kid do in the interview process to go undrafted?
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So his kind of passing tools are so irreplaceable, that he went undrafted?

If his tools are that great, what the hell did this kid do in the interview process to go undrafted?
"Maturity questions".
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