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Old 08-24-2013, 08:03 PM  
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:29 PM   #211
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Jesus, if Reid and crew can sharpen him up, we will have a Hanzo sword on this ****ing team.

Hanzo.
Hes gonna make you forget you ever liked that Smith dude......
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:30 PM   #212
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Hes gonna make you forget you ever liked that Smith dude......
Oh, I'm sure Rex can accomplish that post-haste.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:31 PM   #213
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"Hanzo" Bray.

I like it.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:48 PM   #214
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Try two 2nd round picks.
one was the 1st pick of the 2nd round

a gnat's ass hair from being a 1st and conditional 2nd/3rd


1st and 3rd is what you get for a negotiated franchise tag trade


yes, we gave the 49ers a franchise tag-like trade amount for Alex Smith, a guy that wasn't tagged.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:54 PM   #215
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I really believe this is a golden opportunity for Bray and he knows it. He picked the perfect coaching staff to learn from and the perfect city that is eager to embrace him. If he succeeds early on and he handles it with grace then he could own this town. He has the gunslinger attitude and arm to back it up with, that this city has craved for decades. Alex Smith is the perfect QB for him to watch because he is highly disciplined with great work habits. Bray needs to learn those things from Alex.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:58 PM   #216
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I really believe this is a golden opportunity for Bray and he knows it. He picked the perfect coaching staff to learn from and the perfect city that is eager to embrace him. If he succeeds early on and he handles it with grace then he could own this town. He has the gunslinger attitude and arm to back it up with, that this city has craved for decades. Alex Smith is the perfect QB for him to watch because he is highly disciplined with great work habits. Bray needs to learn those things from Alex.
I can not argue this at all. If Alex does NOTHING in this town but be a great teacher and mentor for Bray, it was worth it.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:29 AM   #217
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I don't have a problem with it, I just think it was too much value.
The only way it can be viewed as too much is if it's a failure.

If Smith wins playoff games, it's totally worth it.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:47 AM   #218
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I wouldn't have given up 2 -2nds for Smith. I felt like it was too much. However, after a day of sulking I realized I loved the GM and coaching hires and would defer to them. We have a stop gap QB for 2-2nds. We have an UDFA to develop that looks more promising at the moment than the player most wanted to spend the 1.1 on. So in the end you spend 2-2nds to get your immediate and long term solution. Not how we'd draw it up, but I'll ****ing take. Be competitive now while providing hope for the future. Seems like the franchise is on the rise for the first time in a long time
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:35 AM   #219
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I wouldn't have given up 2 -2nds for Smith. I felt like it was too much. However, after a day of sulking I realized I loved the GM and coaching hires and would defer to them. We have a stop gap QB for 2-2nds. We have an UDFA to develop that looks more promising at the moment than the player most wanted to spend the 1.1 on. So in the end you spend 2-2nds to get your immediate and long term solution. Not how we'd draw it up, but I'll ****ing take. Be competitive now while providing hope for the future. Seems like the franchise is on the rise for the first time in a long time
I get a kick out of people saying that line. So stupid.

LIKE YOU GOT ANY ****ING CHOICE in the matter. You damn right you will defer just like everyone else that is not the GM of the KC Chiefs.
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:48 AM   #220
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I get a kick out of people saying that line. So stupid.

LIKE YOU GOT ANY ****ING CHOICE in the matter. You damn right you will defer just like everyone else that is not the GM of the KC Chiefs.
I think he meant 'put trust in'.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:00 AM   #221
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one was the 1st pick of the 2nd round

a gnat's ass hair from being a 1st and conditional 2nd/3rd


1st and 3rd is what you get for a negotiated franchise tag trade


yes, we gave the 49ers a franchise tag-like trade amount for Alex Smith, a guy that wasn't tagged.
It's the price of doing business. It's what any team is gonna give up for a competent, starting, not washed up QB. The teams that traded later round picks for has-beens, or never was, got what they paid for, and find themselves, still in dire QB situations.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:07 AM   #222
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It's the price of doing business. It's what any team is gonna give up for a competent, starting, not washed up QB. The teams that traded later round picks for has-beens, or never was, got what they paid for, and find themselves, still in dire QB situations.
Yep. And it's not like the Chiefs didn't have competition here. There were other teams involved. I'm sure they'd have preferred to only give up a 3rd.

I hated giving up 2 2nds, but I can't control it. I'm dealing with it.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:10 AM   #223
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The only way it can be viewed as too much is if it's a failure.

If Smith wins playoff games, it's totally worth it.
No way! If Alex Smith wins 10 SBs, it's still too much./Milk

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Old 08-31-2013, 06:11 AM   #224
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1st and 3rd is what you get for a negotiated franchise tag trade
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Except that it wasn't a first and a third. 2.1 is not 1, no matter how many times some people insist that it is.
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:02 AM   #225
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It doesn't matter if he's a 1st rounder, 3rd, 5th, UDFA etc., bottomline is he's showing he can play and has potential. You don't trade that away for anything, no matter the position.
So you never trade anyone?

Percy harvin can't play or has no potential?
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