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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:29 PM   #1981
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The stats overwhelmingly show that your chances for success are greater with a first round QB leading the charge.

There are exceptions, of course.

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I think if you want to be really accurate, you need to look at the QB age. This started in the last decade when they made it tough on the defensive backs and really started protecting QBs. It didn't evolve into a QB driven league. The owners made it one.
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Poor Geno. They are on the hot trail to Teddy Bridgewater ville.

This has the panthers 2010 written all over it.

You know, they drafted the guy who fell in the draft, (Jimmy Claussen), then the next year had the first pick and took Cam Newton.

Wow if these aren't similar.
The Jets defense is still good enough to get them 4-6 wins...
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LOL. Wanna reword that?

Like say, chances are better with your OWN drafted first round qb?

Alex Smith after all........

#1 overall. LOL.
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The Jets defense is still good enough to get them 4-6 wins...
It is? They are starting a rookie corner, LaRon Landry who played really well for them last year is gone.

I really don't think it is at all. They have some very nice pieces up front with Coples, Wilkerson, but they also lost DeVito, Bart Scott is gone.

And, if Geno struggles, and turns the ball over, that defense is going to be on the field a lot. And they are in a division that upgraded the passing weapons across the board.

The Bills got Robert Woods, Marquise Goodwin, and now they have to defend the mobile Ej Manuel, and have a quality coach.

The Dolphins along with getting more experience with Tannenhill now added Mike Wallace.

I don't like the Jets chances much at all.
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WTF does that have to do with holding up Dawson from 1908 as a good current model?

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WTF does that have to do with holding up Dawson from 1908 as a good current model?

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You claim this is a pass first league and that is why Dawson doesn't compare to today, but the AFL of Dawson's time was a pass happy league. Do you even read your own posts?
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You claim this is a pass first league and that is why Dawson doesn't compare to today, but the AFL of Dawson's time was a pass happy league. Do you even read your own posts?
No, I claim that the model has changed, the game has changed, and that trying to use Dawson is ****ing irrelevant.

Do YOU read my posts? Or do you just go in to immediate reactionary jackass-mode?
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Lets look at all QB's that win a superbowl. Then lets look at those guys versus all 1st roundpicks.

Next lets look at the rest of the draft QB's and the Superbowls they have won, and compare them to all the rest of the QB's drafted 2nd and higher.

Which group is going to be a shittier group? Which group has a higher PERCENTAGE of super bowl winners selected?

Just because some guys don't pan out, that does not mean that it has anything to do with the guys who do. Statistics show if you want to win super bowls, your chances are phenomenally higher with a first round QB.


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Lets look at all QB's that win a superbowl. Then lets look at those guys versus all 1st roundpicks.

Next lets look at the rest of the draft QB's and the Superbowls they have won, and compare them to all the rest of the QB's drafted 2nd and higher.

Which group is going to be a shittier group? Which group has a higher PERCENTAGE of super bowl winners selected?

Just because some guys don't pan out, that does not mean that it has anything to do with the guys who do. Statistics show if you want to win super bowls, your chances are phenomenally higher with a first round QB.


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