Chiefs start making cuts.

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PLAYERS RELEASED

Player - Position

Steven Baker - T

Josh Bellamy - WR

Jalil Brown

TE Kevin Brock

Malcolm Bronson - S

Greg Castillo - S

Kennard Cox - CB

Marcus Dixon - DL

Tommie Draheim - OL

Darin Drakeford - LB

Shaun Draughn - RB

Frankie Hammond Jr. - WR

Demetrius Harris - TE

Tysyn Hartman - DB

Austin Lane - DE

Orie Lemon - LB

Semaj Moody - CB

Toben Opurum - FB

Matt Reynolds - T

Rico Richardson - WR

Rokevious Watkins - OL

Ridge Wilson - LB/DE


WAIVED INJURED

Player - Position

Ricky Henry - G

ILB Zac Diles

Tony Moeaki - TE


Additionally, the team has waived/released the following six players: TE Kevin Brock, CB Jalil Brown, LB Zac Diles, S Bradley McDougald, DT Jerrell Powe and WR Devon Wylie.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The secondary is only as good as it's weakest player.

That guy is Dante Robinson and I GUARANTEE that opposing quarterbacks will know exactly wheee he is when he gets on the field and will be licking their chops.

Sorry, but I don't neceaarily agree with that.

Anyway, who do you guys consider to have the best secondary in the league?

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The secondary is only as good as it's weakest player.

That guy is Dante Robinson and I GUARANTEE that opposing quarterbacks will know exactly wheee he is when he gets on the field and will be licking their chops.

This !

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't know if you've got stuff going on personally or if something pushed you over the edge here, but youve taken on quite the opposite end demeanor than we were used too. It's fine either way, but hopefully all is well.

And I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, I don't really care either way about brown. I'm simply stating that more times than not, what he brought and was us what your gonna get with the 4th cb on your roater

I'm plenty positive about the majority of this teams current makeup.

I just don't think it's realistic to think that a 31 year old corner that got burnt repeatedly last year is gonna find some mythical fountain of youth and start playing well again...especially after seeing WITH MY OWN EYES him getting burnt repeatedly by whoever he was facing in camp.

I also like seeing guys that were/are crap (like Brown) get shitcanned and replaced by the scraps of elite teams that have too many quality players at these positions.

I didn't agree with getting bent over a barrel to get a quarterback like Alex Smith and think spending the top pick in the draft to replace an above average player was a complete waste of resources.

In case you haven't noticed, I'm pretty damn happy with just about everything else they did this offseason.

Not sure why you think I have changed sides or anything...I've always tried to remain a realist.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sorry, but I don't neceaarily agree with that.

Anyway, who do you guys consider to have the best secondary in the league?

were you not here last year when everyone said Stanford Routt was just as good as Brandon Carr

then the season started, and a lot of people ate crow for how badly Routt brought down the entire secondary.

but the excuses still flowed that it wasnt Routts fault, it was the scheme, coach, QB, etc

Same shit that will happen when Dunta cant cover anyone.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I'm plenty positive about the majority of this teams current makeup.

I just don't think it's realistic to think that a 31 year old corner that got burnt repeatedly last year is gonna find some mythical fountain of youth and start playing well again...especially after seeing WITH MY OWN EYES him getting burnt repeatedly by whoever he was facing in camp.

I also like seeing guys that were/are crap (like Brown) get shitcanned and replaced by the scraps of elite teams that have too many quality players at these positions.

I didn't agree with getting bent over a barrel to get a quarterback like Alex Smith and think spending the top pick in the draft to replace an above average player was a complete waste of resources.

In case you haven't noticed, I'm pretty damn happy with just about everything else they did this offseason.

Not sure why you think I have changed sides or anything...I've always tried to remain a realist.

Ok cool.


I think you overrate the impact said corner will have on the success of the team, but I do agree he probably isn't goo to greatly improve.

I was just curious as it seems every other post you make is something about "drinking this kool aid" or "lotta homers after we beat this team or that team". Bit like I said, either way, good to hear all is ok

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sorry, but I don't neceaarily agree with that.

That's ok. I understand why.

You want to go back to when you completely enjoyed watching the Chiefs and when you were trying to be objective, it took some of that away. I get it.

I find enjoyment in many ways regarding this football team and until they start winning real games again, MOST of that enjoyment comes from deciding which moves I choose to go along with and which ones I choose to disagree with and have always had no shortage of reasons why I form those opinions.

To each his own.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

were you not here last year when everyone said Stanford Routt was just as good as Brandon Carr

then the season started, and a lot of people ate crow for how badly Routt brought down the entire secondary.

but the excuses still flowed that it wasnt Routts fault, it was the scheme, coach, QB, etc

Same shit that will happen when Dunta cant cover anyone.

Will dunta be our 2 corner?

Seems coaching might have something to do with it in the case her because they've already made changes in the secondary.

But yes, if we have Robinson singled up on other teams primary wr like we did with routt, we will probably have trouble

[Mav]

Originally Posted by O.city

Will dunta be our 2 corner?

Seems coaching might have something to do with it in the case her because they've already made changes in the secondary.

But yes, if we have Robinson singled up on other teams primary wr like we did with routt, we will probably have trouble

Its amazing how much better a secondary can look when you have a pass rush.....

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's ok. I understand why.

You want to go back to when you completely enjoyed watching the Chiefs and when you were trying to be objective, it took some of that away. I get it.

I find enjoyment in many ways regarding this football team and until they start winning real games again, MOST of that enjoyment comes from deciding which moves I choose to go along with and which ones I choose to disagree with and have always had no shortage of reasons why I form those opinions.

To each his own.

No, because it just doesn't make sense to me that you base the grade of an overall secondary on its 3rd best cb.

Again, who has the best secondary in football?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I'm plenty positive about the majority of this teams current makeup.

I just don't think it's realistic to think that a 31 year old corner that got burnt repeatedly last year is gonna find some mythical fountain of youth and start playing well again...especially after seeing WITH MY OWN EYES him getting burnt repeatedly by whoever he was facing in camp.

I also like seeing guys that were/are crap (like Brown) get shitcanned and replaced by the scraps of elite teams that have too many quality players at these positions.

I didn't agree with getting bent over a barrel to get a quarterback like Alex Smith and think spending the top pick in the draft to replace an above average player was a complete waste of resources.


Invade you haven't noticed, I'm pretty damn happy with just about everything else they did this offseason.

Not sure why you think I have changed sides or anything...I've always tried to remain a realist.

The Chiefs spent more money and got older and probably got worse by replacing Arenas with Dunta Robinson.

I'd agree with your "realist" comment, except that the reality is that we cut Brown for a guy who is equally bad and expendable, but isn't nearly as good on special teams. IMO.

[O.city]

If we had last years special teams coach again, I'd agree.

But with Toub being here, I'm thinking the drop off between brown and the guys we brought in will be negligible.

I'm much more worried about our dl depth and overall dl than I am our secondary at this point.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

were you not here last year when everyone said Stanford Routt was just as good as Brandon Carr

then the season started, and a lot of people ate crow for how badly Routt brought down the entire secondary.

but the excuses still flowed that it wasnt Routts fault, it was the scheme, coach, QB, etc

Same shit that will happen when Dunta cant cover anyone.

At least this staff is quickly identifying the problem early on and have moved him down the depth chart.

Hussein Abdullah is the nickel guy from what I've read.

Honestly, I don't even see a place for Robinson on this team at all.

He can't match up against starting wideouts.
He can't cover the quicker guys that man the slot
As a safety, he isn't a better option than Hussein and is probably a push with Lewis.

I wonder if they are trying to trade Lewis or Robinson...even if we get a ham sandwich out ofthe deal at least it gets that salary off the books.

The contracts of Daniel and Robibson should have gone to more worthy players.

[O.city]

He's be a better option at fs than Lewis IMO, with his playing style that would actually put him in a pretty good position.

Just play center field and be aggressive. He's a good tackler and isn't afraid of contact like Lewis seems to be

[O.city]

Demps will end up playing a lot somewhere.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

If we had last years special teams coach again, I'd agree.

But with Toub being here, I'm thinking the drop off between brown and the guys we brought in will be negligible.

I'm much more worried about our dl depth and overall dl than I am our secondary at this point.

Really don't have a problem with our D-line. Ascending Nose Tackle, two solid enough DEs. Nice depth guy with upside in Bailey. Good developmental guys in Catapano and Jaye Howard.

I like the Sean Smith signing. Every other move we made at CB was a complete dumpster fire. It's not a good sign when you assign your Safeties to play as your nickel guys.