Chiefs Alex Smith end of season stats (what if?) - Page 3

**pr_capone** · 09-03-2013, 11:58 PM

3,500 yards - 25 TD - 10 INT - 80 QBR - 56% Completion - and all 16 games started w/no injury

Is that performance worth the two 2nd round picks KC paid?

Also... would those numbers merit a contract extension and he then gets to groom his eventual replacement?

Rasputin · 09-04-2013, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla

I get the anger but, why not win now? Why do you care about the stats if we win? Don't you want to see the six pro bowlers and Flowers actually do something for once? I assume you are like me and have invested a lot of time watching these guys. Think about how they feel. They want to win. Like it or not Smith was the best QB available and they are going to play hard for him. This isn't Cassel part deux. I guess he'll have to prove it and winning cures everything.

Every team hopes to continue building and stay in the hunt. If you don't think they are doing that you are crazy. But, the window is closing and I think they believe we have some damn good talent.

Why not win now? That's been said during DT time. That's what Dick Vermeil tried we are always in the win now mode never are we building for Championships.

Red Gorilla · 09-04-2013, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Winning in the playoffs maybe would help?

Regardless what happens this year I want us to draft a quarterback in next years draft to be our guy for the future. They can compete and have Bray compete as well.

I'm sick of retreads so he best win in the playoffs and make Chiefs look good doing it.

I'm cool with that and I think we will if the opportunity arises. It's just really sad how Pioli rocked Chiefs Kingdom to its core. He's gone now and I think some don't really realize it. I don't know what else Clark needs to do. He got a new GM he is very blue collar and forthcoming, we have three new QBs, and a proven winner of a HC. Pioli sucked ass but, he is gone. Let's give these guys a chance.

Sandy Vagina · 09-04-2013, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Depends on the team W/L i'd say.

Exactly. Kids and fantasy footballers can focus on the numbers like this, but all that ever really matters are the wins.

I would easily suspect Smith's completion % to be much better. At least in the 60's. The QBR would likely be in the upper 80's to low 90's. TD/INT ratio looks good enough. Yardage would obviously be higher unless people are wrong about Reid's planned aggression... or Smith misses a few games.

Overall, if he puts up your numbers and KC either goes to or just misses the playoffs at 9-7? Then, I'd say it was a decent and promising start... and to expect even better from the 2014 season.

Sandy Vagina · 09-04-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I do. Absolutely. If Alex doesn't perform the way that Andy wants, and Bray shows steps forward next season, I could definitely see Bray replacing Alex Smith next season during the year, and Alex being gone after the season.

Now, if Alex Smith comes out and proves to be a top 10 qb, then yeah, he will have earned it.

If I was forced to bet, I would bet HARD on the former, and laugh at anyone taking the latter.

So now, you think Smith is not good enough, and your money is on him getting booted? Do I have that right? Am I to understand that you have now flip-flopped already on Smith just for the sake of sucking CP's e-penis?

If so...

Red Gorilla · 09-04-2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Exactly. Kids and fantasy footballers can focus on the numbers like this, but all that ever really matters are the wins.

Good post and I agree. People are consumed by numbers.

**Mav** · 09-04-2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

So now, you think Smith is not good enough, and your money is on him getting booted? Do I have that right? Am I to understand that you have now flip-flopped already on Smith just for the sake of sucking CP's e-penis?

If so...

I like the Alex Smith I saw the past two years.

I like the fact that Alex was very masterful at running the offense, the pre play adjustments, the giving the players a chance to make a play, the ability to be clutch when he needed to be, and not having to be THE GUY.

I have no idea how Andy Reid is going to use Alex Smith. Until I see that, I am skeptical.

Even you have to admit that Alex's strength is not pushing the ball down the field.

Until I see it done consistently, I even as big of a fan of Alex as I am, aint buying it. I will gladly eat crow when I see it. This doesn't mean im sucking anything. I am merely maintaining what I have said since I have been here.

Being realistic, makes me no less of an Alex Smith fan. I just have no problem admitting ive never seen him be asked to carry an offense, and be successful.

LowExpectations · 09-04-2013, 08:12 AM

Expect around a 61% completion percentage, 2800 yards, a bottom 10 3rd down conversion rate, and 15-18 TD's.

**loochy** · 09-04-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks

Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.

This.

Or, restated in an easier way:

Are these Matt Cassel "Pro Bowl" numbers?

Ace Gunner · 09-04-2013, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations

Expect around a 61% completion percentage, 2800 yards, a bottom 10 3rd down conversion rate, and 15-18 TD's.

with Jamaal & DBOWE primary targets on the other end of those passes, I'm going to say you're off. 3500 yd area, 25 td's.

Ace Gunner · 09-04-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks

Honestly, it depends.

Is there meaning behind those stats?

i.e., How many of those TDs game winners? Did they make a difference between winning and losing? Did a good percentage of those passing yards come from when the team was trailing and provide the difference between us winning and losing? I'd look for those kinda things before deciding whether or not he was worth the second round pick.

can't find stats for any of this so it can't be important /cp elite

**Mav** · 09-04-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Gunner

with Jamaal & DBOWE primary targets on the other end of those passes, I'm going to say you're off. 3500 yd area, 25 td's.

too early to be feeding the TROLLS ace......

Dayze · 09-04-2013, 08:25 AM

I'd say no; simply because of the price of two 2nds.

**Mav** · 09-04-2013, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I'd say no; simply because of the price of two 2nds.

at least you think the chiefs will win 8 games.

**RealSNR** · 09-04-2013, 08:33 AM

Who cares about stats?

Because if you only focus on wins, those wins aren't sustainable. It's a sign of a football team getting away with more than they should, and eventually (next year or in the playoffs) that shit usually comes crashing down.

There are very few teams that can win in the playoffs year after year after year and not "look good" on paper.

We don't want 2010 again. 2010 can go **** itself in the eye.

Dayze · 09-04-2013, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

at least you think the chiefs will win 8 games.

I should've also stated that my view was based simply on the stats. If they make it to the AFC Championship game etc, then it's worth it. But, they won't.

I say they're 6-10 / 8-8 team.

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