Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.

[Hammock Parties]

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

That appears to be fair enough.

I am sure you don't wish to read it or believe it... but I'll say it anyway. It really comes down to the competence of the OL sustaining blocks, picking up blitzes, and receivers downfield.

If early on, the receivers are getting open and catching the deeper ones, you will likely see more of them coming. Same for the OL holding their blocks, picking up blitzes, etc.

If they can't do well enough to earn the deep passes, then just like usual... Smith will go back to what does work. First pass of the game was a nice, deeper pass to Fasano... and he short/armed +/or kept his feet on the ground, when a very slight hop/jump would have been plenty sufficient to make the catch. He does that? and he will likely see no more attempts like that.

Now, there IS a small chance that I am wrong here... and that Smith just really hates throwing deep. But all through his career, he really hasn't had the OL pass pro or the quality deep receivers to make deep passing a real priority. His best target was VD on seams and wheel routes, and he connected very well on those.

I was at the game so I could see the defensive coverage deep. In the first half the Jags were covering the deep pass, but in the second half they were pulling up the safeties and stacking the line leaving Avery with one on one down field every play. I assume the Chiefs did not take advantage of the down field coverage because they were trying to run the clock and keep Smith from getting hit. Makes sense with the lead and the way the defense was dominating.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week given both the Chiefs and Cowboys will dissect that game film. If the Cowboys stack the line from the beginning the Chiefs are going to have to take shots down field.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It's not. It's just odd that Alice seems alergic to them even when circumstances dictates that he should have had massive yardage accumlated.

Can't disagree about the yardage. He's put on a few shows...but very few. He does seem to be clutch though..which in my opinion is more important. When his back is against the wall, he comes out swinging..and with this KC defense, that just might be a perfect fit short of having a Rogers, Brees, Manning, Brady on the team.

I wouldn't expect many 300 yard games from him.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

Can't disagree about the yardage. He's put on a few shows...but very few. He does seem to be clutch though..which in my opinion is more important. When his back is against the wall, he comes out swinging..and with this KC defense, that just might be a perfect fit short of having a Rogers, Brees, Manning, Brady on the team.

I wouldn't expect many 300 yard games from him.

That's a very under rated trait to have in a QB. We'll have to see it here and I hope we do. I still think it's foolish to think being able to whip out 350-400 yards through the air isn't an asset for a QB. I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that now after Sunday.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

I was at the game so I could see the defensive coverage deep. In the first half the Jags were covering the deep pass, but in the second half they were pulling up the safeties and stacking the line leaving Avery with one on one down field every play. I assume the Chiefs did not take advantage of the down field coverage because they were trying to run the clock and keep Smith from getting hit. Makes sense with the lead and the way the defense was dominating.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week given both the Chiefs and Cowboys will dissect that game film. If the Cowboys stack the line from the beginning the Chiefs are going to have to take shots down field.

I'll be hoping they do, in that case. Would love for Smith to hit a handful of deep ones, so people can relax and stop .

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's a very under rated trait to have in a QB. We'll have to see it here and I hope we do. I still think it's foolish to think being able to whip out 350-400 yards through the air isn't an asset for a QB. I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that now after Sunday.

The last time Kaep threw for 300 yards it resulted in a lost superbowl. I've heard it said that YPA is probably a better indicator of how well a QB is playing than total yards. It's fun to watch, but I think if you broke it down statistically, throwing 300+ yards probably has very little correlation with wins. That said, I agree that being ABLE to whip out big passing games is always an asset.

As a 9er fan I can say that this is the best receiving core the 9ers have had since Owens left. I'm not trying to suggest that Alex could or could not have done it also. I think Kaep is benefiting what is the most offensive talent the team has had since the glory years. I also think that Kaep might be the most talented QB in the NFL that won't be retiring in the next few years.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

The last time Kaep threw for 300 yards it resulted in a lost superbowl. I've heard it said that YPA is probably a better indicator of how well a QB is playing than total yards. It's fun to watch, but I think if you broke it down statistically, throwing 300+ yards probably has very little correlation with wins. That said, I agree that being ABLE to whip out big passing games is always an asset.

As a 9er fan I can say that this is the best receiving core the 9ers have had since Owens left. I'm not trying to suggest that Alex could or could not have done it also. I think Kaep is benefiting what is the most offensive talent the team has had since the glory years. I also think that Kaep might be the most talented QB in the NFL that won't be retiring in the next few years.

actually the last time kapernick threw for over 300 they beat green bay.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

actually the last time kapernick threw for over 300 they beat green bay.

That was this time. The last time was in the superbowl

What's more is that he has only done it twice. Of course the response to that is that he's only had a half season to do it in and Alex has had 8 years.

[saphojunkie]

update the OP with weekly results:

[saphojunkie]

GENO SMITH - 1-0
GP....COMP....ATT....PERC....YDS....AVG....TD...LONG....INT....FUM....QBR....RAT
1.......24........38......63.2.....256....6.74....1......26........1.......1........48.5...80.6

ALEX SMITH - 1-0
GP....COMP....ATT....PERC....YDS....AVG....TD...LONG....INT....FUM....QBR....RAT
1.......21........34......61.8.....173....5.09.....2.....26.......0.......0.......66.3...94.4

[9er guy]

Geno is gonna get that work on Thursday.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Geno is gonna get that work on Thursday.

That's going to be tough. They will have to put up some points and I think basically the Jets/Jags offense are about same outside the QB's. Not much to work with. They'll need at least 21.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's going to be tough. They will have to put up some points and I think basically the Jets/Jags offense it about same outside the QB's. Not much to work with.

"Get that work" means he's gonna lose.

No matter what race you are, I'm sure you feel super white right now.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

"Get that work" means he's gonna lose.

No matter what race you are, I'm sure you feel super white right now.

Yes, I know. Didn't my response indicate that I know what you were saying? Tough game, he doesn't have shit to work with, need a lot of points to win blah blah blah.

But yes "Get that work" is a phrase I wouldn't use and would laugh at anyone that did.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yes, I know. Didn't my response indicate that I know what you were saying? Tough game, he doesn't have shit to work with, need a lot of points to win blah blah blah.

I have no idea. LOL.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

I have no idea. LOL.

My boyz Genoz gonnas get twerked Tursday!

There, I translated. That means I roughly agree.