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Old 09-12-2013, 09:49 PM  
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You guys really have weepy vaginas!!!!!!!

Wow. He looks pathetic out there. You guys were crying like babies when KC didn't draft him.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:31 AM   #376
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I don't know why this keeps coming up. Nobody expected him to be anywhere near where Alex is at this moment.
You think the guys banging the table to draft him 1.1 overall knew he was this much of a project?
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:31 AM   #377
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If you watched the game, you know that if Genos receivers catch HALF of the drops, NY wins that game and it's not even close.

I expected Bill Billichek to have Geno rattled early and until the end, Geno handled the situation extremely well.

Love the double standards, though.
What double standard?

The wrs did drop a few, but genos accuracy and timing were a factor in the drops.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:39 AM   #378
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I've always had the feeling that a lot of Chiefs fans couldn't handle a rookie QB... there's always seemed to be this comfort associated with retread QBs, and some people go to great lengths to point out every little flaw of young QBs. Granted, the the meltdowns on this board aren't really indicative of the entire fanbase, but I'm certain there would be several "this guy isn't working out" threads after every loss.

Hell, I think it was the 2nd or 3rd week of presason and someone posted something like "I think we've seen all we need to from Geno to know he's a bust."
I wouldnt argue any of this really.

Thing is to make statements that people like me for example don't want to or are "afraid" to draft a QB in round 1 is stupid.

I would have been ecstatic to get 3 or 4 of the guys form the last few drafts.

Because I disliked every QB in this weak ass draft class doesn't mean I don't want to draft and develop a guy.

The problem with this place is everything is an absolute to most posters. Black and white.Reality is always in between. Little reality here.

Not wanting a Geno or a Sanchez as my QB doesn't mean I don't want a Luck, RGII, Tannehill, Ryan or a myriad of other QB's.

And for the record I don't think the Jets are further ahead than they were pre Sanchez at this point because of WHO they drafted.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:40 AM   #379
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Manning and Brees are known quantites in the NFL.

Smith hasnt shown anything, in the preseason or regular season.

He may turn out to be great, but thus far there is no reason to suspect it.
Hahaha

If you truly watched the game and believe the bolded part of your post, you don't know what you are watching.

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Old 09-13-2013, 10:42 AM   #380
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Hahaha

If you truly watched the game and believe the bolded part of your post, you don't know what you are watching.

Sorry
This is true.


But, like djln said in the game thread, if you watched the game and thought he was good, you didn't know what you were watching.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:43 AM   #381
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You think the guys banging the table to draft him 1.1 overall knew he was this much of a project?
What is this much? That was a miserable game to QB in and only he second game and it was against the Pats. You act like he is in his 3rd season.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:46 AM   #382
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You think the guys banging the table to draft him 1.1 overall knew he was this much of a project?
I know a bunch of the posters who wanted him at 1.1.....wanted him to sit his 1st year.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:47 AM   #383
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:47 AM   #384
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I think it's pretty obvious that luck, Wilson, rgIII are the exceptions, not the rule.

There's going to be a learning curve with any player
Ironically enough, there are several people that think that Luck is overrated. They think that because of his interceptions last year that hes a bust.

Some people just don't understand football. They don't understand that of all the situations besides Brandon Weeden he was placed in the most difficult with the least amount to work with.

New coaching staff completely, changing defensive schemes, porous oline, weak running backs, two rookie tight ends, and then on top of all that, immediately into the season your new head coach pops cancer leaving your OFFENSIVE coordinator to run the whole team taking away from Lucks development.

It AMAZES me how quickly people want to judge these young qbs without factoring in all FACTORS.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:48 AM   #385
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I know a bunch of the posters who wanted him at 1.1.....wanted him to sit his 1st year.
Would of been awesome for him to sit and learn behind Alex.

I still maintain that Bray doing the same thing, that the talent level and upside between Geno and Bray is close enough that its neither here nor there.
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What is this much? That was a miserable game to QB in and only he second game and it was against the Pats. You act like he is in his 3rd season.

Contrast Smith's play to that of E.J. Manuel and tell me which QB appeared to be ready to lead an NFL team and which isn't ready to lead an NFL team.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:51 AM   #387
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I wouldnt argue any of this really.

Thing is to make statements that people like me for example don't want to or are "afraid" to draft a QB in round 1 is stupid.

I would have been ecstatic to get 3 or 4 of the guys form the last few drafts.

Because I disliked every QB in this weak ass draft class doesn't mean I don't want to draft and develop a guy.

The problem with this place is everything is an absolute to most posters. Black and white.Reality is always in between. Little reality here.

Not wanting a Geno or a Sanchez as my QB doesn't mean I don't want a Luck, RGII, Tannehill, Ryan or a myriad of other QB's.

And for the record I don't think the Jets are further ahead than they were pre Sanchez at this point because of WHO they drafted.
I completely agree, and it's mind numbing to read... like I said, people will trip over their children and kick their dog on the way to their computer if they are anti-Geno and he throws one pick or are pro-Geno and he makes one good throw.

As far as people being afraid to draft a QB, it's obviously not everyone, and people will always have differing opinions on different guys in the draft... there's just so much impatience with some people, and like you said, a lot of it is in black and white. I think of a normal meltdown after a loss and cringe at the though of adding a rookie QB into the mix... again, it's not indicative of the fanbase in general (or at least I hope not), but say they had Geno and Alex Smith (or another vet who is good enough to get by but might be a backup on another team) right now and Geno won the job... it would test the patience of this place more than anything else in the past decade, and it's not even close.
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This is true.


But, like djln said in the game thread, if you watched the game and thought he was good, you didn't know what you were watching.
Alex has a good head and is a check down QB. Occasionally he looks great going down field but that is the exception rather than the rule. Alex is a very known commodity. It really comes down to what you wanted when the decision was made. You were going with that or you were rolling the dice with Geno in hopes that as he developed you would have much more upside. Truth is we are not any closer to knowing if that upside exists now as we were back then.
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I know a bunch of the posters who wanted him at 1.1.....wanted him to sit his 1st year.
Which, of course, is virtually impossible.

No NFL team is drafting a guy at 1.1 with the intention of sitting him for an entire season.
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This is true.


But, like djln said in the game thread, if you watched the game and thought he was good, you didn't know what you were watching.
I expected him to go into foxborough and look like a rookie quarterback that's in over his head. I also said that he should have sat his first year...

I saw a rookie go into that place and do what should have been enough to win.

I saw a kid play very well for 2/3 of the game for a rookie in his second start in one of the toughest places to play in the NFL...the other 1/3, he looked like a rookie that's in over his head.

FFS SOME OF YOU DON'T HAVE AND PATIENCE.
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