ChiefsPlanet's dumbasses are smarter than WPI's dumbasses

[OnTheWarpath15]

If these posts aren't the epitome of True Fan, I don't know what is.

COMEDY GOLD.

Enjoy.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=3906318

Sure your are talking a lot of money here with these four and you never know who is going to be Fran. by their team.

But lets have a little fun say the are all 4 out there! You bring all four in on the same day and same time and lay it down to them! SUPER BOWL that is the bottom line.

$37,410,425 under the cap

CUT
CB Patrick Surtain
LB Donnie Edwards
OT Damion McIntosh
DL Alfonso Boone

Saves $5,839,000 cap room

Room under the cap in 2009 $43,249,425


Now all these are based on 4 year deals because the math was easy to do then
5 year and 6 year deals.


Jordan Gross Tackle
4 year deal $20,550,000 SB $8,250,000
1 base $1,330,000 cap $3,832,000
2 base $ 2,335,000 cap $4,717,000
3 base $4,485,000 cap $5,584,000
4 base $ 6,150,000 cap $8,880,000

Terrell Suggs LB
4 year $20,550,000 SB 8,250,000
1 base $ 6,150,000 cap $8,880,000
2 base $ 2,335,000 cap $ 4,717,090
3 base $ 5,150,000 cap $7,500,000
4 base $665,000 cap $ 1,916,100

Julius Peppers DE
4 year $40,000,000 SB $16,000,000
1 base $1,330,000 cap $15,000,000
2 base $4,670,000 cap $9,434,000
3 base $10,300,00 cap $3,832,000
4 base $12,300,000 cap $17,760,000


Albert Haynesworth DT
4 year $20,550,000 SB 10,000000
1 base $1,995,000 cap $6,685,000
2 base $ $4,670,000 cap $10,277,000
3 base $5,150,000 cap $8,437,000
4 base $6,150,000 cap $5,485,500

You lock up a LT, DE, DT, LB for the next 4 years

Cap increase with these four players over the next 4 years
2009 $34,397,000 cap balance $8,852,000
2010 $33,308,000
2011 $25,353,000
2012 $34,041,000

In 2011/2012 Waters and TG will be done so u will be saving a lot

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=3907135

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd love to take credit for that phrase...

I don't think anyone personally hates anyone else but when you have to explain something or have the same argument every single damn day and sometimes with the exact same people your patience starts wearing thin.

That doesn't even mention the huge number of people that will post an extremely uneducated draft take. If you can't take the 10 minutes out of your day before you post to read the rest of this board and use the lovely thing called the internet to learn and make an intelligent draft post why should I be nice to you?

I understand getting frustrated arguing with the same people about the same shit all the time. I do it alot with some of the hermits in DC.

But everyone has an opinion and some are better than others just like last year when you kept arguing that Jake Long sucks but it turns out he did good and went to his first Pro Bowl. Those that you argued with would probably call you an idiot right now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I understand getting frustrated arguing with the same people about the same shit all the time. I do it alot with some of the hermits in DC.

But everyone has an opinion and some are better than others just like last year when you kept arguing that Jake Long sucks but it turns out he did good and went to his first Pro Bowl. Those that you argued with would probably call you an idiot right now.

Well they'd be wrong when LT's taken numerous picks after him were just as good...

I argued he wasn't worth a top 5 pick..I still stand by that.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm having difficulty adapting to Mecca's new avatar.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'll agree with this to a point. I'm not sure why, but it seems like there's been less debate and more argument this off-season so far. I think, perhaps, the whole "true fans" thing started it. At least that's the first time it actually hit me as something out of the ordinary. Ever since then, people have been very quick to go from discussing a subject to simply blasting dissenting opinion under the guise that their opinion is without merit. It's always been that way to a point, but it seems like people are "taking sides" more often these days.

Glad to know that my thread was the equivalent of an article of secession

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Claythan

I'm having difficulty adapting to Mecca's new avatar.

Got use to Bert huh?

I should make one where Sanchez eats Thigpens head.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And that is why they work on TV and not for NFL teams..it's widely known that OLB is not considered a valued position. It would be like arguing a TE is worth a top 5 pick, you can have the best one in the league but it won't be all that significant those players are nice pieces they aren't the cores of your team.

It's like the people who think we can just trade down like it's nothing and when you point out how rare that is you're met with some dumb argument like "the draft chart is dumb" which is absurd since all the teams use it.

SOME of those experts could work for teams, they probably get paid more where they are at. and the draft chart isnt always followed to the letter

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well they'd be wrong when LT's taken numerous picks after him were just as good...

I argued he wasn't worth a top 5 pick..I still stand by that.

No they wouldn't be wrong that is why it is called an opinion.

Also no other rookie tackle made the Pro Bowl so I don't why you would say they were better or just as good this year.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Got use to Bert huh?

I should make one where Sanchez eats Thigpens head.

I would be on board. Sanchez is pretty handsome, BTW. He could **** half of Kansas City.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

No they wouldn't be wrong that is why it is called an opinion.

Also no other rookie tackle made the Pro Bowl so I don't why you would say they were better or just as good this year.

I think it's pretty well acknowledged that Clady had just as good if not a better year and Albert was good this year too...

I don't think Long justified himself as being 12 picks better than the next OT drafted. To me all the OT's were similar that's why he wasn't worth that pick.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think it's pretty well acknowledged that Clady had just as good if not a better year and Albert was good this year too...

I don't think Long justified himself as being 12 picks better than the next OT drafted. To me all the OT's were similar that's why he wasn't worth that pick.

That is fine it still is an opinion.

BTW I am just playing devils advocate and you haven't been mean to me for having a difference of opinion.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

That is fine it still is an opinion.

BTW I am just playing devils advocate and you haven't been mean to me for having a difference of opinion.

I only get nasty with people when they keep arguing the same thing for 2 months or they say something reeruned like "the draft chart is dumb" that would be like a lawyer going "well I think this law is dumb"

Personally I think Eugene Monroe is a more complete prospect than Jake Long was.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

No they wouldn't be wrong that is why it is called an opinion.

Also no other rookie tackle made the Pro Bowl so I don't why you would say they were better or just as good this year.

Long was the first overal pick, and the Dolphins got a lot of attention because of the turnaround.

Pro Bowls voting isn't always about selecting the best players.

It's a popularity contest, and name recognition.

And average dumbass fan wouldn't know Branden Albert from Eddie Albert, or Ryan Clady from Jack Ryan.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I only get nasty with people when they keep arguing the same thing for 2 months or they say something reeruned like "the draft chart is dumb" that would be like a lawyer going "well I think this law is dumb"

Personally I think Eugene Monroe is a more complete prospect than Jake Long was.

I would just ignore them after awhile and let their stupid statements speak for themselves

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by milkman

Long was the first overal pick, and the Dolphins got a lot of attention because of the turnaround.

Pro Bowls voting isn't always about selecting the best players.

It's a popularity contest, and name recognition.

And average dumbass fan wouldn't know Branden Albert from Eddie Albert, or Ryan Clady from Jack Ryan.

IMO long was the 1st pick because he was going to be easier to sign, cheaper, and the cornerstone for the oline. parcells likes line play and builds from that. and by most accounts long was ahead of the others drafted. now MM (i think) had albert, but most people were against him being a lt right? so basically when it comes to the draft it's a crapshoot.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by milkman

Long was the first overal pick, and the Dolphins got a lot of attention because of the turnaround.

Pro Bowls voting isn't always about selecting the best players.

It's a popularity contest, and name recognition.

And average dumbass fan wouldn't know Branden Albert from Eddie Albert, or Ryan Clady from Jack Ryan.

I would agree with that. Like I said I was just playing devil's advocate though I did before the draft and still do think Long is a very tackle. I wanted to take Ryan though and was very happy with Dorsey.